COVID Vaccine !

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fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
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My local GP's is busy with drive in/walk up for the over 80's from the car park - just driven past twice and cars are going in, either with elderly drivers, or elderly passengers. BIL's grand parents have been done, but MIL in a Nursing home not yet done - rubbish.
 
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"The Firm" have been done.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55602007
 
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kingrollo

kingrollo

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Imdeed. In terms of mobilising a resource response they make an excellent parallel. In fact, they are so alike that combat trained personnel are often used in times such as this.

I'm trained and authorised - first responder- to administer intra muscluar injections, and I won't even bother trying to jump through the hoops the government have set. If its anything like the recent flu jab it will be a production line, where each subject is in the company of the person administering for 2 or 3 minutes.

This is a national emergency, and the response to the now biggest single cause of death among adults in the UK does not require that I am trained to recognise radicalism or domestic abuse. The emergency nature of the situation would require that I jab 40 people an hour, and then go home when the emergency has passed.

And nothing more.

The wellbeing of individuals is important, but the wellbeing of the nation takes priority in an emergency sotuation such as this. In normal times we can afford considerations secondary to clinical need to be of such import - during a national emergency with a massive, overriding priority, we cannot allow it. Anything that distracts from addressing immedetiate clinical lead should be dispensed with, solely for Covid, and solely for the duration of the emergency.

As things stand covid is killing far more people in the UK than radicalism, domestic abuse, suicided related to mental health, so it is utter insanity that these temporaility less dangerous causes of death are being given training and awareness priority over the administering of life saving covid vaccines.


What's changed is were are now in a very litigation savvy world. A few people start croaking it because of dirty needles, or slipping on the church hall floor , virusjablawers4u will be all over it.
 

BoldonLad

Not part of the Elite
Location
South Tyneside
What's changed is were are now in a very litigation savvy world. A few people start croaking it because of dirty needles, or slipping on the church hall floor , virusjablawers4u will be all over it.
From the Employers (and, possibly, the managers) point of view, there is also the “duty of care” legislation to think about.
 

Landsurfer

Veteran
Julie and I had our flu jabs last week .... from entering the surgery front door to leaving by the side door was less that 5 minutes ..a lot less .. really ... Why does it take so long so long to give the covid jab .... age of the recipients ?
Watched footage of the Israeli program in action .... thats fast .... at one location people where just putting their arms out of the window of the car .. jabbed and gone ... but younger demographic in the report i watched on i24 News.
 

Rocky

Hello decadence
Julie and I had our flu jabs last week .... from entering the surgery front door to leaving by the side door was less that 5 minutes ..a lot less .. really ... Why does it take so long so long to give the covid jab .... age of the recipients ?
Watched footage of the Israeli program in action .... thats fast .... at one location people where just putting their arms out of the window of the car .. jabbed and gone ... but younger demographic in the report i watched.
Two reasons why the vaccination programme appears to be taking longer - patients have to wait 30 mins after the jab to make sure no anaphylactic reaction (and space is limited, limiting the nos of patients in each cohort) and there is a shortage of vaccine available at the mo.
 
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kingrollo

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Let's also not forget - we are 9 years in credit in developing the vaccine - it usually takes 10 years. I haven't had my Jab and as a member of the vunerable group - I am very keen to get it !

It's signed off by the relevant authorities - but we shouldn't undo that by letting untrained people do the jab.
The parts people would cut out - probably only save a couple of hours anyway. Sure every hour counts with 60m to get through ...but I'm happy with the standards proposed.
Plus it might not be the jabbers that are the bottleneck - as anyone who has managed projects will know - throwing more resource in - doesn't always increase speed - at least in the short term.
 

FishFright

More wheels than sense
I’m with @accountantpete here, my wife the Prof volunteered to join the vaccinating task force, since recovering from cancer five years ago, she hasn’t seen patients and works as a full time medical academic. However, the key thing is that she can give injections having spent a lifetime doing it. She too couldn’t supply 75% of those certificates and so wasn’t eligible. At a time when there’s a shortage of jabbers it all seems crazy.

Is doing a handful of hours getting up to speed the main thing preventing her doing so ?
 
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kingrollo

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If you could get every member of the UK population to give you 20p - you would get yourself a tidy sum ....if it's that easy do it
 
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Rocky

Hello decadence
Its doing a handful of hours getting up to speed the main thing preventing her doing so ?
If there was no one else to vaccinate, she'd jump through all the hoops but sees very little point in completing (sometimes irrelevant to her) training modules. She is making contributions to the fight against Covid in other ways.

She's perfectly able to jab people - I've seen give herself intramuscular injections of herceptin (a chemo drug) or sew her own finger up (after lacerating it decorating) having injected anaesthetic beforehand.
 
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kingrollo

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If there was no one else to vaccinate, she'd jump through all the hoops but sees very little point in completing (sometimes irrelevant to her) training modules. She is making contributions to the fight against Covid in other ways.

She's perfectly able to jab people - I've seen give herself intramuscular injections of herceptin (a chemo drug) or sew her own finger up (after lacerating it decorating) having injected anaesthetic beforehand.

So she is contributing to overall crisis in other very important ways.

Behind every person sticking needles in arms, there a whole team of enablers.
 
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