COVID Vaccine !

[Landsurfer]

Two reasons why the vaccination programme appears to be taking longer - patients have to wait 30 mins after the jab to make sure no anaphylactic reaction (and space is limited, limiting the nos of patients in each cohort) and there is a shortage of vaccine available at the mo.

I take it the vaccine used in Israel doesn't require the 30 minutes sitting about or they have done the maths arena adverse effects

 

[lane]

All staff should be up to date with their mandatory training which is most of that list. Training is 3 online modules.

Should be? Says who?

 

[Rocky]

I take it the vaccine used in Israel doesn't require the 30 minutes sitting about or they have done the maths arena adverse effects

I'm not sure about the Israeli arrangements, so can't really comment but I know about the UK issues through GP friends who are currently vaccinating people. It'll be interesting (from a scientific point of view) to see how many people actually have an adverse reaction. It's taken seriously at the moment and there needs to be someone with a syringe of adrenalin waiting just in case.

 

[lane]

They wouldn't vaccinate my mum even though it is quite common peanut allergy, so certainly seem very risk adverse.

 

[lane]

Entire population can be vaccinated in 5 days

This is behind a paywall but I would be interested in how he says it could be done

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...ve-days-if-it-were-better-motivated-lmd093l6d

 

[midlife]

Should be? Says who?

My employer. Non compliance is a breach of contract, they can stop things like pay increases, access to study leave etc. but usually just a bollocking....

 

[lane]

My employer. Non compliance is a breach of contract, they can stop things like pay increases, access to study leave etc. but usually just a bollocking....

That could be changed and should be due to being bloody stupid. Still if we are happy for people to die while people complete pointless irrelevant online modules......

 

[midlife]

That could be changed and should be due to being bloody stupid. Still if we are happy for people to die while people complete pointless irrelevant online modules......

My mandatory training is designed to keep me current in procedures and practices that keep me, the staff, patients, visitors and the community safe.

For example, if you have a heart attack in my surgery you would expect me to be able to look after you until the paramedics arrive.

 

[lane]

My mandatory training is designed to keep me current in procedures and practices that keep me, the staff, patients, visitors and the community safe.

For example, if you have a heart attack in my surgery you would expect me to be able to look after you until the paramedics arrive.

I wouldn't however give a toss if you had been trained on radicalisation.

 

[midlife]

I wouldn't however give a toss if you had been trained on radicalisation.

Yep, trained on radicalisation too. I see and speak to thousands of people a year. Maybe I spot and report the person planning to plant a pipe bomb. Maybe save more lives than I have picking up cancers.

 

[Gunk]

Quite relieved that my 85 year old Father had the first dose of the Pfizer vaccine today.

 

[Landsurfer]

My employer. Non compliance is a breach of contract, they can stop things like pay increases, access to study leave etc. but usually just a bollocking....

Employment Law .... Your employer is dead in the water ...... Contact Mentor Services ... a division of Nat West .... free advice and representation ....

 

[winjim]

Employment Law .... Your employer is dead in the water ...... Contact Mentor Services ... a division of Nat West .... free advice and representation ....

It's part of the shonky pay contract that the NHS unions screwed their membership over a couple of years ago. Unlikely it would be overturned.

 

[lane]

Yep, trained on radicalisation too. I see and speak to thousands of people a year. Maybe I spot and report the person planning to plant a pipe bomb. Maybe save more lives than I have picking up cancers.

Think very carefully before you answer this; how likely is it that someone administering a vaccine to someone which takes all of a couple of minutes is going to spot a pipe bomber?

I'm sure you do a great job at cancer and stopping pipe bombers - but you probably should try and move into NHS admin you would be a natural.

 

[accountantpete]

Julie and I had our flu jabs last week .... from entering the surgery front door to leaving by the side door was less that 5 minutes ..a lot less .. really ... Why does it take so long so long to give the covid jab .... age of the recipients ?
Watched footage of the Israeli program in action .... thats fast .... at one location people where just putting their arms out of the window of the car .. jabbed and gone ... but younger demographic in the report i watched on i24 News.

The situation here is a bit more complex.

It is the middle of winter with snow possible on the ground.

The over 80's have to arrive, park their car in the nearby car park, walk to the Centre and book in. They are then queued up and jabbed and then sent to a recovery are where looked after for 15 minutes(no tea and biscuits). They then have to walk back to the car and vacate the area.

All this has to be done at a rate that does not saturate the parking, queuing or recovery areas, allows covid safe passage in and out and gives the 80 year olds sufficient time to do all this.