COVID Vaccine !

[Ming the Merciless]

You didn't say whether or not your friend had booked, to me this implies choice, her booster. From the way your post was phrased I understood she had been invited to Doncaster without any choice being your criticism of the system.

So yes I did read exactly what you posted.

@Landsurfer Did say she’d had no reaction which implies she went to the appointment.

 

[PaulSB]

@Landsurfer Did say she’d had no reaction which implies she went to the appointment.

Yes, quite right and I didn't question this. His point was, I think, that he was able to book, that is choose, a booster site 200 metres from his home but his friend who lives only 50 metres away had to travel 12 miles.

He didn't say whether or not she had been given a choice and considering the overall point he made I thought she had not been given a choice.

If the closest choice was 12 miles I'm surprised and agree it makes no sense. Equally in my experience the choices available are wide so i asked the question.

 

[icowden]

There seems to be a two tier booking system. If you go to the NHS website and book you get offered centres miles away from where you live. On the other hand if your GP invites you for a booster and sends you a link, you can usually get booked in down the road.

This does seem to be a daft design decision somewhere,

 

[vickster]

There seems to be a two tier booking system. If you go to the NHS website and book you get offered centres miles away from where you live. On the other hand if your GP invites you for a booster and sends you a link, you can usually get booked in down the road.

This does seem to be a daft design decision somewhere,

Mine booked via the NHS site (I’ve not had a GP invite yet) is about a mile away and there were at least 5 more various locations within a few miles. I realise it’s very populated and built up around here but Rotherham isn’t a rural village I think.
was she looking for a very specific date and/or time?

 

[PaulSB]

There seems to be a two tier booking system. If you go to the NHS website and book you get offered centres miles away from where you live. On the other hand if your GP invites you for a booster and sends you a link, you can usually get booked in down the road.

This does seem to be a daft design decision somewhere,

I've booked each Covid jab via the NHS website. We live rurally and I had six choices all easily accessible by car and within six miles of home. I could access two with a single bus journey but the public transport issue is one impacting access to a wide range of services.

 

[Ajax Bay]

"The spread of the virus was directly linked to how dense the population is."
Is this causal or a correlation? And how is this linked to vaccines?

View: https://youtu.be/VULk2ik2IZo

 

[midlife]

Youngest son goes for second jab today and Mrs midlife her booster then for the moment it's a full house of jabbed people until the next one, probably a tinkered to Omicron Pfizer the way things are going.

 

[Ajax Bay]

Ages old but I don't recall this being noted here - bearing in mind the EU knashing and wailing and posturing in January (less so on here but with undertones of how much better the vaccine procurement would have been if we'd gone in with the EMA coordinated approach).
3 Sep (from AZ site): AZ and EU have reached an agreement that ends legal proceedings over the execution of the APA for doses of AZ vaccine. AZ (now) commits to deliver 60M by end 3Q 2021, another 15M in Q4 2021 and a further 65M in 1Q2022 - regular delivery schedules and capped rebates will apply in the event of any delayed doses.
EVP AstraZeneca, said: “We are fully committed to manufacture Vaxzevria for Europe following the release for supply of more than 140 million doses to date at no profit. We are also looking forward to working with the European Commission in a joint effort to further support COVAX.”
To date, AZ have supplied more than 1.1 billion doses to over 170 countries world wide: approx two thirds to low- and lower-middle-income countries.
Comment: I thought that most EU states had had to throw away supplied AZ vaccine because of the age cohorts they restricted it to, and because of reluctance to accept by populations.

 

[Oldhippy]

I just popped in to my surgery and receptionist booked me there and for local hospital. I was there ten minutes tops.

 

[MontyVeda]

There seems to be a two tier booking system. If you go to the NHS website and book you get offered centres miles away from where you live. On the other hand if your GP invites you for a booster and sends you a link, you can usually get booked in down the road.

This does seem to be a daft design decision somewhere,

I had similar. Got a letter from the NHS saying i can now book my booster online, but the website wasn't offering me a vaccination centre in Lancaster. Rang my GP and booked via them and was given a choice of two centres in Lancaster.

Maybe it's a case of trying to spread the load around the various centres, rather than having everyone in Lancaster going to one location... send them to a different one with a much smaller catchment area.

 

[FishFright]

Serious infection ..... anyone dying ..... lots and lots of people dying of cancer while the Covid Brigade keep the fear going ..... 141 people sadly died with or of Covid yesterday ... but over 1500 died of other causes, many of them possibly as a result of being ignored by the health system over the last 2 years ...
Proportionate Response ... is the way forward .... End the Fear Porn.

Back to standard porn for you ?

 

[lazybloke]

There seems to be a two tier booking system. If you go to the NHS website and book you get offered centres miles away from where you live. On the other hand if your GP invites you for a booster and sends you a link, you can usually get booked in down the road.

This does seem to be a daft design decision somewhere,

Worth remembering that anyone can go to walk-in sessions , although they're not always very convenient.

A jab offered by your local GP will likely be the closest, but not necessarily the soonest - because those services are so stretched.

That's the beauty of the NHS website, which gives you such a wide choice of locations - near home, near work, or along the way on your commute or any other journey. There's typically a next-day appt available within a reasonable distance, if you're happy to travel.
I does sometimes offer weird choices. I just closed the page and found slightly different options.
If you've changed your mind about the location or date, just go back into the NHS website with your id and booking ref - it will automatically display an alternate choice of time, times & locations for your jab.

 

[lazybloke]

Serious infection ..... anyone dying ..... lots and lots of people dying of cancer while the Covid Brigade keep the fear going ..... 141 people sadly died with or of Covid yesterday ... but over 1500 died of other causes, many of them possibly as a result of being ignored by the health system over the last 2 years ...
Proportionate Response ... is the way forward .... End the Fear Porn.

Ah, but I can also cherry-pick numbers and point to 1500 daily deaths in Jan 2021!
That's what we're potentially dealing with, having abandoned all lockdown measures.

I dressed warm for a visit to a London pub this week so I could stand outside with my mates and about 50 like-minded people.
Inside were at least 100 people rammed in, standing room only, shoulder to shoulder. That's a superspreader event right there, as there wasn't a mask in sight. Every pub I saw was exactly the same.

Covid isn't a problem for most of us, but even the double-jabbed are getting infected, and events like that evening in a pub are just the situation where infections get taken home and passed onto the vulnerable. A fatal infection is not a nice Christmas gift to CEV Uncle Albert.

And I'm still only considering Delta/plus variants, as there's probably insufficient time for omicron to become significant before xmas.
If it's as infectious as feared then that will happen - presumably in Q1. If it puts severe pressure on the NHS , then Boris will have to consider lockdown or other restrictions.

Call that fear if you wish, but the NHS, SAGE and the Government call it contingency planning.

 

[Landsurfer]

Ah, but I can also cherry-pick numbers and point to 1500 daily deaths in Jan 2021!
That's what we're potentially dealing with, having abandoned all lockdown measures.

I dressed warm for a visit to a London pub this week so I could stand outside with my mates and about 50 like-minded people.
Inside were at least 100 people rammed in, standing room only, shoulder to shoulder. That's a superspreader event right there, as there wasn't a mask in sight. Every pub I saw was exactly the same.

Covid isn't a problem for most of us, but even the double-jabbed are getting infected, and events like that evening in a pub are just the situation where infections get taken home and passed onto the vulnerable. A fatal infection is not a nice Christmas gift to CEV Uncle Albert.

And I'm still only considering Delta/plus variants, as there's probably insufficient time for omicron to become significant before xmas.
If it's as infectious as feared then that will happen - presumably in Q1. If it puts severe pressure on the NHS , then Boris will have to consider lockdown or other restrictions.

Call that fear if you wish, but the NHS, SAGE and the Government call it contingency planning.

So it’s back behind the sofa for you then .... Don’t worry the rest of us will make sure you have power, food and transportation ....
Only deaths count ... If we wake up tomorrow morning and all 67 million of us have covid ..... And no one dies !! ... whats the problem ...
Global death toll from the omicron variant ...... 0 ... WHO figures ...
Back behind the sofa .....

However .....

Lets just all accept and respect our own responses to the current situation ... your view may not be my view ... my view not yours ...
But all are valid ........
All are real ......
Pro jab, anti mask, pro reality.

Lets just play nicely .....

 

[lazybloke]

So it’s back behind the sofa for you then .... Don’t worry the rest of us will make sure you have power, food and transportation ....
Only deaths count ... If we wake up tomorrow morning and all 67 million of us have covid ..... And no one dies !! ... whats the problem ...
Global death toll from the omicron variant ...... 0 ... WHO figures ...
Back behind the sofa .....

However .....

Lets just all accept and respect our own responses to the current situation ... your view may not be my view ... my view not yours ...
But all are valid ........
All are real ......
Pro jab, anti mask, pro reality.

Lets just play nicely .....

No, not quaking behind the sofa.

I'm still doing keywork, I travelled and worked throughout the lockdowns, it was a secondment that I volunteered for; I could have gone back to my normal desk job at any time and worked from home. I'm playing my part.
I'm supporting tourism & hospitality industries in the UK.
I'm off to the pub again in about 5 mins - eating his time, indoors! without a mask!


If I have a fear it's for those more vulnerable than me. Just like the government have a fear for the NHS, so are being cautious to "buy time" when faced with an unknown new threat.

Your anti-mask stance might suggest you don't give a stuff about other people...