COVID Vaccine !

[classic33]

In one way, you're correct: covid has rarely been my main concern. Why would it be? Stuff like food and heating are far more often my main concern. Covid is major for all sorts of reasons, though, and the vaccines are usually my main concern when posting in this topic.

The vaccines have been great but the organisation has seemed very chaotic around here. Now the boosters are not as easy to get as the politicians say they should be, although I see Matt Hancock (who was vaccinated later than me) apparently had no trouble getting a booster at the weekend. I've been told that the vaccination centre he went to decided to waive the 6-month limit to avoid wasting doses due to low attendance. Maybe I'll go hang around ours with a coffee near the end of the day...

But more generally, you're wrong about my treatment and, as I've posted many times before:

Again it's someone got treated before me, rule was changed, nowhere close to you offering the booster.

As for "making stuff up", you've already admitted to having a beef about treatment, and having to wait.

Of course I have, especially when lied to about the length of the wait. Why haven't you?

My answer on that last part remains the same. The system will catch up, and like everyone else in the system you can moan all you want, but ask yourself what is that really achieving?

I'm more than willing to wait, and a possible reason for this behaviour on my part may be the frequent A&E visits over the last 50 years. I've seen far worse than me coming in.

Do you accept no responsibility for managing your own health, where it's possible.

As for the vaccine, you're one of the lucky ones. What is available locally, now, has been deemed unsafe for me not by me. And given the reaction to the safe one, there's a reluctance to give/use it again on me. Again I doubt I'm the only one in this situation.


Before correction for the quoted post to be read correctly

Again it's someone got treated before me, rule was changed, nowhere close to you offering the booster.

As for "making stuff up", you've already admitted to having a beef about treatment, and having to wait.
QUOTE="mjr, post: 6603486, member: 34410"]Of course I have, especially when lied to about the length of the wait. Why haven't you? [/QUOTE]

My answer on that last part remains the same. The system will catch up, and like everyone else in the system you can moan all you want, but ask yourself what is that really achieving?

I'm more than willing to wait, and a possible reason for this behaviour on my part may be the frequent A&E visits over the last 50 years. I've seen far worse than me coming in.

Do you accept no responsibility for managing your own health, where it's possible.

As for the vaccine, you're one of the lucky ones. What is available locally, now, has been deemed unsafe for me not by me. And given the reaction to the safe one, there's a reluctance to give/use it again on me. Again I doubt I'm the only one in this situation.

 

[mjr]

Again it's someone got treated before me, rule was changed, nowhere close to you offering the booster.

Again, you're making shoot up.

As for "making stuff up", you've already admitted to having a beef about treatment, and having to wait.

Which wasn't what you wrote.

My answer on that last part remains the same. The system will catch up, and like everyone else in the system you can moan all you want, but ask yourself what is that really achieving?

Maybe it'll wake some of the Polyannas up to just how far in the shoot the NHS is right now and they'll join those calling for corrective action.

Do you accept no responsibility for managing your own health, where it's possible.

I do manage my own health where it's possible. I would be in far worse shape right now if not. But it's not reasonably possible to do stuff like diagnostic testing on everything...

As for the vaccine, you're one of the lucky ones. What is available locally, now, has been deemed unsafe for me not by me. And given the reaction to the safe one, there's a reluctance to give/use it again on me. Again I doubt I'm the only one in this situation.

Yep, you're in a shoot position. That doesn't make any of my comments untrue, or entitle you to post shoot.

 

[Ajax Bay]

Have just listened 'live' to Professor Dame Sarah Gilbert giving the Dimbleby lecture. Recommended (on BBC iPlayer I guess)

 

[PK99]

Have just listened 'live' to Professor Dame Sarah Gilbert giving the Dimbleby lecture. Recommended (on BBC iPlayer I guess)

Seconded. Excellent lecture simply explaining a complex problem and process. One deeply impressive lady.

 

[presta]

Have just listened 'live' to Professor Dame Sarah Gilbert giving the Dimbleby lecture. Recommended (on BBC iPlayer I guess)

I like the way she kicked off right at the start with a snipe at Gove and his "people are fed up with experts".

 

[KnittyNorah]

You lot are loving Covid aren't you .... you’ll miss it when its gone ...
No silly me .... it will never be gone for some will it ....
Toodle Pip !

Just like a great many other viruses ... I highly doubt it'll be 'gone' in the lifetime of most adults today, but somewhere down the line - not too far down the line, we must hope - it'll likely become of little major import for most in the developed world through one or more of improvements in vaccine efficacy and duration, highly-effective and easily-obtainable (preferably OTC) treatments, and/or changes in the virus itself, resulting in a more benign disease.

However, as the only two diseases ever to be eradicated 'in the wild' are - in humans - smallpox in 1980 and - in animals - rinderpest in 2011, both of which have plagued the world for centuries or millennia, I don't think it's reasonable to hold out hope of eradication of anything else just yet ... even the eradication of polio, although almost there, seems to falter regularly ...

 

[Alex321]

You lot are loving Covid aren't you .... you’ll miss it when its gone ...
No silly me .... it will never be gone for some will it ....
Toodle Pip !

While that was apparently meant to be sarcastic, it was of course, entirely true.

We are not going to be rid of Covid in the foreseeable future, and it will probably mean annual vaccinations for many for the rest of our lives.

Hopefully, with vaccines and improved medications, it will eventually settle down to be not much worse than flu - but remember, in most "normal" years, approximately 20,000-25,000 people die from flu in the UK.

 

[alicat]

Have just listened 'live' to Professor Dame Sarah Gilbert giving the Dimbleby lecture. Recommended (on BBC iPlayer I guess)

Thirded. She richly deserves her damehood.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Cancelled my booster today , not sure it would be wise whilst coughing to attend. Managed to avoid this chesty crap till now !

 

[Alex321]

Cancelled my booster today , not sure it would be wise whilst coughing to attend. Managed to avoid this chesty crap till now !

Yes, they generally say not to go for the vaccination if showing any symptoms.

 

[midlife]

Cancelled my booster today , not sure it would be wise whilst coughing to attend. Managed to avoid this chesty crap till now !

Hope you are not too unwell, as you have symptoms its time for a PCR.....

 

[SpokeyDokey]

Just like a great many other viruses ... I highly doubt it'll be 'gone' in the lifetime of most adults today, but somewhere down the line - not too far down the line, we must hope - it'll likely become of little major import for most in the developed world through one or more of improvements in vaccine efficacy and duration, highly-effective and easily-obtainable (preferably OTC) treatments, and/or changes in the virus itself, resulting in a more benign disease.

However, as the only two diseases ever to be eradicated 'in the wild' are - in humans - smallpox in 1980 and - in animals - rinderpest in 2011, both of which have plagued the world for centuries or millennia, I don't think it's reasonable to hold out hope of eradication of anything else just yet ... even the eradication of polio, although almost there, seems to falter regularly ...

Hopefully Covid will not become mired in politics as per Polio which would have been gone by now.

 

[KnittyNorah]

Hopefully Covid will not become mired in politics as per Polio which would have been gone by now.

Huh? Is this meant to be sarcasm or irony?
It already is mired in politics, surely - politics and conspiracy theories in even more peculiar forms than polio ever has been - and has been since about 2 days after it was 'discovered' in/by 'the West', and very probably, in politics of a sort at least, since before that (although I doubt we'll ever find out for sure).

 

[Johnno260]

Just like a great many other viruses ... I highly doubt it'll be 'gone' in the lifetime of most adults today, but somewhere down the line - not too far down the line, we must hope - it'll likely become of little major import for most in the developed world through one or more of improvements in vaccine efficacy and duration, highly-effective and easily-obtainable (preferably OTC) treatments, and/or changes in the virus itself, resulting in a more benign disease.

However, as the only two diseases ever to be eradicated 'in the wild' are - in humans - smallpox in 1980 and - in animals - rinderpest in 2011, both of which have plagued the world for centuries or millennia, I don't think it's reasonable to hold out hope of eradication of anything else just yet ... even the eradication of polio, although almost there, seems to falter regularly ...

Was there as much hate and issues with smallpox vaccines? I'm a little too young to remember from the early 80's.

With Polio there are many anti vax now targeting that illness and vaccine as well, basically they say they renamed Polio Guillain-Barré Syndrome.

 

[Alex321]

Was there as much hate and issues with smallpox vaccines? I'm a little too young to remember from the early 80's.

No, but then we didn't have the internet allowing disinformation to be spread so easily.

And of course, smallpox vaccination was the first ever developed, and the program to eradicate the disease by mass vaccination started in 1967, when people were generally far less questioning of authority.