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Call that fear if you wish, but the NHS, SAGE and the Government call it contingency planning.

And most normal human beings - at least those who I know, who come from many and varied backgrounds - call it being sensible in the face of increased risks. Many people who I thought might well be reluctant to remask have been saying 'it's about time!' The couple of special interest groups - both small, so our monthly meeting is rarely more than a dozen people in a large airy WI Hall with opening windows - I belong to, and which are meeting IRL, are continuing to do so but with much greater attention to social distancing, masking and LFTs.
 

DaveReading

Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
Location
Reading, obvs
Worth remembering that anyone can go to walk-in sessions , although they're not always very convenient.

Not (yet) everywhere. Some local sites are still working to 6 months after the second jab, rather than 3, before they will (currently) give the booster to walk-ins.
 
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mjr

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Comment: I thought that most EU states had had to throw away supplied AZ vaccine because of the age cohorts they restricted it to, and because of reluctance to accept by populations.
No, some countries were very willing to accept doses others (particularly the French) didn't want. As it keeps so much easier than the Pfizer, little was wasted.
 

mjr

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Global death toll from the omicron variant ...... 0 ... WHO figures ...
Remember, covid usually takes 14 days or more, sometimes much more, to kill, and we've not been able to identify the omicron variant that long.

Whoever pointed the zero death toll to you like it was significant may be either stupid or devious.
 

Landsurfer

Veteran
Remember, covid usually takes 14 days or more, sometimes much more, to kill, and we've not been able to identify the omicron variant that long.

Whoever pointed the zero death toll to you like it was significant may be either stupid or devious.
The WORLD HEALTH ORGANISATION pointed it out in numerous world wide press releases ...... your choice ? Are they Stupid or Devious ..
You don't like the truth do you ....
 

mjr

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Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
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Global death toll from the omicron variant ...... 0 ... WHO figures ...
As sort of reported: " On Friday, World Health Organization (WHO) spokesperson Christian Lindmeier said that the agency has no data on mortality linked to the newly detected Omicron variant. " Not the same as =0
Remember, covid usually takes 14 days or more, sometimes much more, to kill, and we've not been able to identify the omicron variant that long.
Whoever pointed the zero death toll to you like it was significant may be either stupid or devious.
The [WHO] pointed it out in numerous world wide press releases .. Are they Stupid or Devious ..
You don't like the truth do you ....
Suggest @mjr 'loves' the truth. I doubt @Landsurfer , anyone 'pointed it out to you' let alone suggested it was 'significant'.
So he is writing in 'like it was significant' without basis.
But do you think that the 'zero deaths' IS a significant point? You must have thought it worth typing (quote above).
@mjr has offered the very likely reason, to which I'd add a second: the high proportion of cases in the 11-40s, few of whom are liable to suffer serious illness let alone death.
Let us hope this virus variant is at least no more virulent, and we just have to manage either higher R0 or higher immunity (vaccine or naturally acquired) escape, or both.
 
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DaveReading

Don't suffer fools gladly (must try harder!)
Location
Reading, obvs
As sort of reported: " On Friday, World Health Organization (WHO) spokesperson Christian Lindmeier said that the agency has no data on mortality linked to the newly detected Omicron variant. " Not the same as =0

Except to the innumerate.
 

Landsurfer

Veteran
You lot are loving Covid aren't you .... you’ll miss it when its gone ... :laugh:
No silly me .... it will never be gone for some will it ....
Toodle Pip !
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
You lot are loving Covid aren't you .... you’ll miss it when its gone ... :laugh:
No silly me .... it will never be gone for some will it ....
Toodle Pip !

It may well never be gone for all of us, thanks in part to the nobbers who keep saying it is not dangerous, it is like the flu, why should I cover my face wah wah wah. It appears that the bets are now on endimicity.

Not loving covid and really hating daffodils who are making matters worse by reposting misinformation and claiming it was from WHO press releases :P
 

mjr

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Bit early for daffodils, isn't it?
But @Landsurfer 's right: the world is in this for the long haul. Rehashing 'we don't have data' as =0 is a mere irritant. Think 'making it worse' is hyperbole.
I believe daffodils are bought from Russia year-round now(!)

It ain't hyperbole if it's true. Can you name any piece of misinformation that has made things better during the pandemic? Do you consider "mere irritant"s to be improvements?
 

classic33

Leg End Member
I believe daffodils are bought from Russia year-round now(!)

It ain't hyperbole if it's true. Can you name any piece of misinformation that has made things better during the pandemic? Do you consider "mere irritant"s to be improvements?
I get the feeling that covid, and everything directly related to it are no longer your main concerns.

You, like many others in this country have had treatment curtailed, and you're unhappy with this. That's your main concern now, "When do I get treated?" seems to override everything.

From someone in a similar situation, in need of long term healthcare for pre-existing conditions, the attitude stinks. I've missed one bone density scan, scheduled for May last year, and an imaging scan to see what other areas have damage. The CSF leaks were under investigation, the specialist I was seeing has since died* due to covid as far as I'm aware. These last 21 months are for me, a minor irritation, things will improve. But don't expect quick and simple.

Going way off topic, but the last time we, as a country, had such severe restrictions was in 2001. Almost a year long, rules were flouted then. Last month I noticed there was livestock on a local hillside where there had been non for the last 20 years. Twenty years to get back to feeling it's safe to do this, to "normal".


*His name appeared amongst a list produced earlier this year, of hospital staff who had died due to it. No first name or initial given, so there's a chance it may have been another with the same surname.
 

mjr

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I get the feeling that covid, and everything directly related to it are no longer your main concerns.

You, like many others in this country have had treatment curtailed, and you're unhappy with this. That's your main concern now, "When do I get treated?" seems to override everything.
In one way, you're correct: covid has rarely been my main concern. Why would it be? Stuff like food and heating are far more often my main concern. Covid is major for all sorts of reasons, though, and the vaccines are usually my main concern when posting in this topic.

The vaccines have been great but the organisation has seemed very chaotic around here. Now the boosters are not as easy to get as the politicians say they should be, although I see Matt Hancock (who was vaccinated later than me) apparently had no trouble getting a booster at the weekend. I've been told that the vaccination centre he went to decided to waive the 6-month limit to avoid wasting doses due to low attendance. Maybe I'll go hang around ours with a coffee near the end of the day...

But more generally, you're wrong about my treatment and, as I've posted many times before:
When you have to start making shoot up about the person you're replying to, you've lost the argument.
 
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