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lane

Veteran
Will the Oxford AZ vaccine ever get fully accepted in the EU following the decision by many countries to pause its use until the latest scare over blood clots is resolved?

I have confidence that the science will show that the risk of blood clots is no greater in those vaccinated with the Oxford AZ than those without, but sadly there will be enough people who will now never have confidence in it that it will slow the vaccination programme down even further throughout Europe, resulting in further deaths.

My wife was just showing me comments on a forum she looks at where people in this country are saying there must be problems with it if so many other countries are banning it, and that they are worried that they might be offered it instead of the Pfizer vaccine.

Very worrying.

I see the European Medicine Agency have issued a statement saying it should still be used.

I agree there will be some impact on people in the UK, but personally don't know of anyone not having the vaccine because of what's happening in Europe, so hope it won't have too much impact. Plus in a couple of weeks, if not before, Europe will be back to using AZ I am sure. Sadly it will have an impact on deaths in the EU but less here I feel.
 
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classic33

Leg End Member
For being brave and going for it.
First vaccination ever, with me knowing there was a chance something would go wrong. Brave or Barmy?

08:40 appointment, 08:49 the doctor made the call for the ambulance. Doctor who called for it made sure she didn't let go of me.

I'd got about 50 yards away before the head went tight, whilst feeling it was going to explode. Vision went, nothing in front of me, before returning as blurred vision. Someone stopped, to ask if I was alright, and all I could manage was "I'm going back". A choice between making my own way to A&E or back to where I'd come from. Volunteer on the door said she thought I was drunk due to being all over the place whilst walking in from the gate. I thought I'd walked a fairly straight line. Blurred vision went to double vision.

All the time this was going on the queue outside was getting longer, and they'd all to wait watching what was going on in front of them. What they thought who knows.

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Was 09:49, corrected to 08:49
 
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fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Sounds scary @classic33 but at least the side effects were near the surgery. You were wary, quite rightly, but just think how bad it could have been if you caught the virus, and anyone not vaccinated has a high chance after June
 

Craig the cyclist

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First vaccination ever, with me knowing there was a chance something would go wrong. Brave or Barmy?

08:40 appointment, 09:49 the doctor made the call for the ambulance. Doctor who called for it made sure she didn't let go of me.

I'd got about 50 yards away before the head went tight, whilst feeling it was going to explode. Vision went, nothing in front of me, before returning as blurred vision. Someone stopped, to ask if I was alright, and all I could manage was "I'm going back". A choice between making my own way to A&E or back to where I'd come from. Volunteer on the door said she thought I was drunk due to being all over the place whilst walking in from the gate. I thought I'd walked a fairly straight line. Blurred vision went to double vision.

All the time this was going on the queue outside was getting longer, and they'd all to wait watching what was going on in front of them. What they thought who knows.

I hope you have reported these extremely side effects?

https://yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk/
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Sounds scary @classic33 but at least the side effects were near the surgery. You were wary, quite rightly, but just think how bad it could have been if you caught the virus, and anyone not vaccinated has a high chance after June
I'm as wary as hell about taking any medication, going on past experience. Never seems to end well.

This happened with the safer, for me, vaccine. What'll happen if the use the other for the second, hospital setting or not.

And for anyone who might feel I'm making a mountain out of a molehill, simple paracetamol has had me in A&E, so their use is out.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
How come, work I assume?
Saturday was the first day in just under a year that I've been out of the house for more than three hours. I'm living with epilepsy, cancer and a known heart issue. Everything else is complicated by the epilepsy and it's treatment.
 

Unkraut

Master of the Inane Comment
Location
Germany
people in this country are saying there must be problems with it if so many other countries are banning it,
It's been suspended in several countries rather than banned, pending investigation. Having spoken to a friend of mine in England last night (now 65!) I thing the reporting of this in Britain is sometimes exaggerated.
Will the Oxford AZ vaccine ever get fully accepted in the EU following the decision by many countries to pause its use until the latest scare over blood clots is resolved?
I was surprised to hear on the news last night that AZ is no longer being injected Germany-wide pending investigation.

Karl Lauterbach, SDP MP and epidemiologist whom I have come to respect, I think has rightly said vaccination should continue whilst the investigation is underway. It definitely needs investigating, but the potential loss of life through yet more delay in vaccinating is almost certainly more than due to the vaccine, if indeed with some people this is actually occurring. It is an extremely small number per million injected, and this is bound to happen with any vaccine injected in vast quantities.

I appreciate the vaccine has got something of an underserved bad reputation, but the health minister is now being over-cautious, listening to the worries of experts that don't imo justify the action taken. If the intention was to allay fears by proving the vaccine absolutely safe as far as that is possible the strategy may well backfire.
 
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Saturday was the first day in just under a year that I've been out of the house for more than three hours. I'm living with epilepsy, cancer and a known heart issue. Everything else is complicated by the epilepsy and it's treatment.
That is bad news and obviously you are very vulnerable, however in the big scheme of things can't you just carry on being cautious as you have been?

You won't really be forced to go anywhere unsafe will you, apart from for your 2nd jab maybe.
 
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