Rocky
Hello decadence
It appears that you can't see the obvious that is right under your nose...the UK corona shambles.....how many dead? 117,000. That is the shambles......
COVID Vaccine !
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mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
False dilemma. If a chunk of a group has been missed, find out why and find another way to reach them! They are a priority for good reason and just giving up and moving on to easier patients from lower-priority groups would be unfair to them.
SkipdiverJohn
Deplorable Brexiteer
- Location
- London
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Then they will be on record as refusing. Not a problem for the target. It is the unreached that are concerning.
classic33
Leg End Member
Why do you make the assumption that to be "Minority Ethnic" means only skin colour is considered?
I believe PHE have detailed breakdowns by areas (where the areas were a bit different from other covid stats) but it broke them right down. I saw them last week, but I can't find the link any more 
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The percentages for the top 4 groups were already very high percentages by then.
.The percentages for the top 4 groups were already very high percentages by then.
It's a brilliant achievement, made possible also by the smart change of tack on giving 1 dose with longer breaks. One of the problems was Pfizer in particular at the end of November were a bit coy with their data and we've seen since people criticise the approach even after the data became available.
People aren't out celebrating in the streets because they know perfectly well this is just the start and a slowdown will come with jab 2. Maybe this can be mitigated a bit with better supply and other things in the pipeline. We're still not doing sustained 2 million first jabs a week and 2 million second jabs a week it has to be noted. It's above 2 million as it's been halfs. If 4 million in total a week can be done sustained then the sort of sunny happy uplands people are talking about out there will be a little closer.
People aren't out celebrating in the streets because they know perfectly well this is just the start and a slowdown will come with jab 2. Maybe this can be mitigated a bit with better supply and other things in the pipeline. We're still not doing sustained 2 million first jabs a week and 2 million second jabs a week it has to be noted. It's above 2 million as it's been halfs. If 4 million in total a week can be done sustained then the sort of sunny happy uplands people are talking about out there will be a little closer.
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Ajax Bay
Guru
- Location
- East Devon
In @mjr world, if the figures for actually vaccinated is not 100% in all those groups (1-4) then the government has, entirely predictably, just managed a big fat 'Freddie'.
In the real world, the NHS has made sterling efforts to reach every individual and offer a vaccination. Some are unable (medically or other); some would prefer not to (refusers) and some can't be bothered, like Skippy. The 15M+ first dose total will include many hundreds of thousands of Gp 5 (over 65s, about 3M) who the programme has rolled onto. Anyone who fits into Gps 1-5 and has not had a jab, and wants one can go on the booking website now.
Well done all those involved. This is a marathon, but we've got to the Cutty Sark (7 miles) ahead the time we 'wanted', without any need for pace acceleration
in the last fortnight.
Second doses kick in from 14 Mar. Until then at current rates another 11M will receive their first vaccination. After that the first rate will drop from 400k a day to 200k a day (over about 10 days), if the overall delivery rate stays the same (@400+k per day).
In the real world, the NHS has made sterling efforts to reach every individual and offer a vaccination. Some are unable (medically or other); some would prefer not to (refusers) and some can't be bothered, like Skippy. The 15M+ first dose total will include many hundreds of thousands of Gp 5 (over 65s, about 3M) who the programme has rolled onto. Anyone who fits into Gps 1-5 and has not had a jab, and wants one can go on the booking website now.
Well done all those involved. This is a marathon, but we've got to the Cutty Sark (7 miles) ahead the time we 'wanted', without any need for pace acceleration
in the last fortnight.Second doses kick in from 14 Mar. Until then at current rates another 11M will receive their first vaccination. After that the first rate will drop from 400k a day to 200k a day (over about 10 days), if the overall delivery rate stays the same (@400+k per day).
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midlife
Guru
First data I have come across on the take up rate of vaccination for NHS staff in a Trust. Our Trust release no figures.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-56069325
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-56069325
johnblack
Veteran
- Location
- South Northamptonshire
Test and trace has been an obvious issue, but I asked this question a week or so back and haven't received a reply that I can remember, I would like to know which countries have made a success of Test and Trace. The only real positives I seem to find are in SE Asia, dealing with far lower numbers and possibly a far more intrusive use of personal data. We need a really good system to learn from, but I don't know where that is.
Bazzer
Setting the controls for the heart of the sun.
- Location
- On the edge of reality
My letter asking me to make an appointment arrived Saturday and had the first jab this morning. 2nd jab booked for early May
A hiccup in registration process caused a small (6 -8) queue of people, but that seemed to have been resolved when I left the centre. I was sat in the 10 minute post jab wait, within 5 minutes of being registered.
A hiccup in registration process caused a small (6 -8) queue of people, but that seemed to have been resolved when I left the centre. I was sat in the 10 minute post jab wait, within 5 minutes of being registered.
johnblack
Veteran
- Location
- South Northamptonshire
My mate, early 30's, has to shield, had his jab yesterday, been in bed since, said he felt ill within 20 minutes! he usually gets every illness know to man worse than any of us, so it was to be expected, he's feeling a bit better this afternoon.
Rocky
Hello decadence
Although this article is 5 months old, it’s worth a read....
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...es-south-korea-germany?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
The crucial thing is that Germany’s system linked to existing health care structures and didn’t require a new network being set up. Public health and primary care are good at testing and tracing. Odd that they should largely be excluded from the UK system.
Pale Rider
Legendary Member
I've spoken to quite a few vaccinated people, not least the nurses involved in my regular care.
A straw poll among them indicates lots of instances of AZ causing flu-like symptoms, but almost no adverse reaction to Pfizer.
One of the AZ'ed nurses had a nasty swelling on her arm and felt properly grotty for several days.
I think that extreme reaction is unusual, the other AZ people I've spoken to either had no reaction or felt below par for a day or so.
