The boots test is 97% accurate (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/advice/new-boots-covid-test-means-holidaymakers/)
much less than the official NHS testing
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The boots test is 97% accurate (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/advice/new-boots-covid-test-means-holidaymakers/)
much less than the official NHS testing
In Germany, public health authorities have been grappling with a huge covid-19 outbreak in Gütersloh, North Rhine-Westphalia. More than 1500 of 7000 workers tested positive for covid-19, and 640 000 residents of two affected counties were returned to lockdown conditions.4 At one of Portugal’s biggest poultry slaughterhouses, at least 129 of the 300 workers contracted covid-19.5
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Slaughterhouses and meat processing plants are favourable environments for SARS-CoV-2 transmission.17 The virus thrives in lower temperatures and very high or very low relative humidity. Metallic surfaces retain live viruses for longer than other environments.89 A dense production of aerosols combining dust, feathers, and faeces is produced in the plants, and intense water use carries materials extensively over surfaces. Workers must speak loudly or shout over the noise, releasing more droplets and spreading them further.10 Workplaces are crowded, and social distancing is difficult.
https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj...require intensive public health interventions.
johnblack
Veteran
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- South Northamptonshire
It's their living conditions that are a big factor, they work shifts, so live in a house on shifts too, one in the door one out the door, large numbers per house all working in the same place.
For clarification, I think the CC Covid group think is very wrong and that Professor Carl Heneghan director of the University of Oxford's Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine is correct. Beyond one lawyer and one engineer, every other person I take Covid information from is a senior medical professional with a long career behind them.
Interesting read and it's been illuminating how the government misinformation and tech giant censorship is readily accepted by many, that is very alarming to me. Ofcoms covid guidelines are scandalous, they stopped most debate from spring leading to a fine for a Notts radio station simply for having a bonkers phone-in guest talk 5G nonsense! With Ofcom input along with the government being the largest advertsing spender, the truth is nowhere to be seen. Without mainstream dissent this led to Vallance & Whitty being able to display a projection/prediction, with no questions allowed, that both will have known (with their professional history) to be a load of old cobblers. They wilfully misled people.
Now we have the Danish mask fiasco where they cannot get a medical journal to publish their findings, so we can safely surmise that they have arrived at a negative conclusion. However, I am happy to believe that there may be a concurrent study with a positive conclusion. The censorship is wrong.
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classic33
Leg End Member
Wearing a bandage as opposed to a mask
The researchers behind a large and unique Danish study on the effect of wearing a mask even have great difficulty in getting their research results published. One of the participating professors in the study admits that the still secret research result can be perceived as 'controversial'.
For weeks, media and researchers around the world have been waiting with increasing impatience for the publication of a large Danish study on the effect - or lack thereof - of wearing a bandage in public space here during the corona pandemic.
Now, one of the researchers who has been involved in the study can state that the finished research result has been rejected by at least three of the world's absolutely leading medical journals.
These include The Lancet, The New England Journal of Medicine and the American Medical Association's journal JAMA.
"They all said no," says the professor, dr. with. and chief physician at the research department at North Zealand Hospital, Christian Torp-Pedersen.
However, the professor does not want to give the reasons for the journals.
"We can not start discussing what they are dissatisfied with, because in that case we must also explain what the study showed, and we do not want to discuss that until it is published," explains Christian Torp-Pedersen.
"The study was initiated at the end of April after a grant of five million kroner from the Salling Foundations. It involved as many as 6,000 Danes, half of whom had to wear bandages in the public space over a long period of time. The other half was selected as the control group.
A large part of the test participants were employees of Salling Group's supermarkets: Bilka, Føtex and Netto."
Given the results are yet to be published, or even made public knowledge, how is it possible to comment on it.
Mo1959
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- Location
- Perthshire,Scotland
- Location
- Somewhere wet & hilly in NW England.
It's not is it.
Read it this morning and I think it said it hadn't been peer reviewed yet.
Julia9054
Guru
- Location
- Knaresborough
Anecdotal, I know but a couple we know came back from their Italian ski holiday in February both with a nasty dose of flu - identical symptoms.
About 2 months ago, the husband took part in one of these randomised population studies looking for antibodies. He was found to have antibodies.
The wife, out of curiosity, took a private antibody test last week. Her test was negative.
- Location
- London
let's hope then.
But, yes, on the face of it it is hellish news.
If my faith hadn't gone post sunday school it would have gone down the plughole in the face of this hell.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Instead of posting that professor's past covid bloopers, this time let's have a blast from 2012:
OK, I'll bite: which of the guidelines do you disagree with and find scandalous? In case you don't actually have a copy yet and are relying on what idiots are pasting on fakebook, they're linked on https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-a.../guidance/broadcast-standards-and-coronavirus
That link also lists the sanctions Ofcom have imposed about covid: no Notts radio station has been fined for that. They might have been fined for other reasons, of course.
IaninSheffield
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- Location
- Sheffield, UK
Translation error?
IaninSheffield
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- Sheffield, UK
Three rejections is more common than not. 'Rejection rates of various top-tier journals including ours vary between 80 and 85%.' Disheartening for authors, but some might argue a strength of the peer review process.
midlife
Guru
367 more deaths reported.
Weekend lag aside it looks like more cases are translating into more fatalities.
http://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...navirus-cases-and-further-367-deaths-12116066
Weekend lag aside it looks like more cases are translating into more fatalities.
http://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...navirus-cases-and-further-367-deaths-12116066
randynewmanscat
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- Vienne, Poitou-Chrentes
The only sanction against a radio station regarding 5G misinformation that I am aware of this year was a warning to Uckfield FM (community station) It was due to a snake oil woman being allowed to distribute gross misinformation on several fronts with only weak challenges by the presenter, no fine imposed.
Snake oil saleswoman Kate Shemirani exemplifies a lot of what is wrong in this world as far as I am concerned, wilful ignorance in the pursuit of money* without any care of harm done. It was upped on spewtube with many supportive comments and counter comments, might still be, I kept reporting it but nothing was done. More people subscribe to her general distrust of science/government than is healthy for our societies, I find that worrying. Of course shes an anti-vaxxer.
https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/ass...iams,-Uckfield-FM,-28-February-2020,-0900.pdf
*Usual income streams from Patreon, Gofundme for a couple of weeks before it was disallowed and various useless and utterly bogus dietary supplements.
Iv'e looked for the most lurid story about this woman who aided by a spineless presenter caused a little community station to receive a spanking from OFCOM. This one ticks all the boxes and for me hilarious, she does know David Icke.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...r-Kate-Shemirani-dangerous-woman-Britain.html
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