Government advice is out
@Brompton Bruce face covering is in
@Brompton Bruce face covering is in
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I can't either
- Location
- Somewhere wet & hilly in NW England.
I think that's fine as a broad sweep first step.
As explained it's all dependant on the R value at the time hence the lack of preciseness - I have no idea why the Beeb couldn't grasp this with the negative leading questions within a couple of minutes of Boris's statement.
Inertia
I feel like I could... TAKE ON THE WORLD!!
Isn’t that inevitable? I want the press to spot problems .
- Location
- Shrewsbury, Shropshire
In an interview on the BBC this morning Raab specifically said that while, for example, you couldn't drive from England to Wales or Scotland to Wales due to the differences in the regulations, otherwise you could drive anywhere you like.
It might be that the document says something different but the comments are out there now.
Like you Gav, I'm fully expecting the local beauty spots to be inundated. Maybe not straight away but very likely from next weekend.
Face coverings in this short document also as already announced on the thread and on the news.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...side-your-home/staying-safe-outside-your-home
"If you can, wear a face covering when in an enclosed space where social distancing isn’t possible, or when you will come into contact with people you do not normally meet. This is most relevant for short periods indoors in crowded areas, for example, on public transport or in some shops.
Evidence suggests that wearing a face covering does not protect you. However, if you are infected but have not yet developed symptoms, it may provide some protection for others you come into close contact with.
Face coverings do not replace social distancing. If you have symptoms of COVID-19 (cough and/or high temperature), you and your household must isolate at home: wearing a face covering does not change this.
A face covering is not the same as the surgical masks or respirators used by healthcare and other workers as part of personal protective equipment. These should continue to be reserved for those who need them to protect against risks in their workplace, such as health and care workers, and those in industrial settings, like those exposed to dust hazards.
Face coverings should not be used by children under the age of 2 or those who may find it difficult to manage them correctly. For example, primary age children unassisted, or those with respiratory conditions.
It is important to use face coverings properly and wash your hands before putting them on and taking them off."
You can make face-coverings at home. The key thing is it should cover the mouth and nose.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...side-your-home/staying-safe-outside-your-home
"If you can, wear a face covering when in an enclosed space where social distancing isn’t possible, or when you will come into contact with people you do not normally meet. This is most relevant for short periods indoors in crowded areas, for example, on public transport or in some shops.
Evidence suggests that wearing a face covering does not protect you. However, if you are infected but have not yet developed symptoms, it may provide some protection for others you come into close contact with.
Face coverings do not replace social distancing. If you have symptoms of COVID-19 (cough and/or high temperature), you and your household must isolate at home: wearing a face covering does not change this.
A face covering is not the same as the surgical masks or respirators used by healthcare and other workers as part of personal protective equipment. These should continue to be reserved for those who need them to protect against risks in their workplace, such as health and care workers, and those in industrial settings, like those exposed to dust hazards.
Face coverings should not be used by children under the age of 2 or those who may find it difficult to manage them correctly. For example, primary age children unassisted, or those with respiratory conditions.
It is important to use face coverings properly and wash your hands before putting them on and taking them off."
You can make face-coverings at home. The key thing is it should cover the mouth and nose.
rualexander
Legendary Member
Pointless video with no basis in reality.
No account taken of air currents, wind strength, etc.
- Location
- Somewhere wet & hilly in NW England.
I'm ok with the press spotting problems, as you put it, but my point remains that yesterday was by necessity a broad sweep of the brush statement and yet the Beeb (amongst others) immediately began to criticise the lack of detail. That's either rank stupidity in my book or sensationalist journalism. Probably the latter imo.
Even the 50-pager today will be a long way away from resolving every single issue - and no doubt there will be more outcry about that. How anyone could think (not aimed at you btw) that a 50 page document can lay out an issue of this complexity in immense detail is beyond me.
There will be layers and layers of this to come - not all for direct public consumption but for employers and other official bodies etc too.
And at some point we have to be responsible for our own outcomes as well - and I'm not subscribing to the Gov avoiding blame conspiracy nonsense on social media as an aside.
I wonder if as a society we are becoming too dependant on being told exactly what to do and are becoming incapable of using common sense to fill in the blanks - notwithstanding the fact there will always be some social outliers that can't/won't. One for another thread maybe.
- Location
- Somewhere wet & hilly in NW England.
snorri
Legendary Member
- Location
- East coast, up a bit.
If only Johnson could deliver his messages with this sort of clarity.......
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1259511252629454852
Travel together by bike allowed in twos if exercising.
1.7 Are there restrictions on how far I can travel for my exercise or outdoor activity?
No. You can travel to outdoor open space irrespective of distance. You shouldn’t travel with someone from outside your household unless you can practise social distancing - for example by cycling. Leaving your home - the place you live - to stay at another home is not allowed.
Bike storage, allowed to travel together with 1 external person to exercise with someone. Bicycle demand
1.7 Are there restrictions on how far I can travel for my exercise or outdoor activity?
No. You can travel to outdoor open space irrespective of distance. You shouldn’t travel with someone from outside your household unless you can practise social distancing - for example by cycling. Leaving your home - the place you live - to stay at another home is not allowed.
Bike storage, allowed to travel together with 1 external person to exercise with someone. Bicycle demand
Joey Shabadoo
My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
FFS, Don't ask, don't suggest, don't advise, don't "mibbes aye, mibbes naw", people are bloody stupid. Tell them, order them, enforce it.
Who's running this country, Sgt bloody Wilson?
"I say, I wonder if you wouldn't mind awfully wearing a face mask, if that's not too much trouble?"
