Coronavirus outbreak

[johnblack]

Why not take your lead from the clear instructions provided by Boris?

It's seems pretty obvious that no matter what was said you would've disagreed. I'm going to have a spin on my bike for a bit, I know I can do that.

 

[Rocky]

I think that's the moot point.

I'm also of the opinion that the messaging is so multi-layered that there will still be gaps to fill in as the information is disseminated down to the end users; therefore, I'm not expecting every question that we want to know the answer to will be answered today. The issues are too vast and too complex to nail down every last detail - at some point we have to pick up the batton and run with it and make it work.

I'm not attempting to over-simplify matters, far from, but the hysterical knee jerk reactions from the media are of no help whatsoever. It would be good to see such influential channels building on central messages with sound, practical thoughts and advice.

I agree. I have a feeling that this is classic Dom. Put out an ambiguous message to the media. Watch them misinterpret it in many different ways. See what the public reaction is. Then decide to follow what seems the most popular route.

I hate the way I’ve become so cynical. I feel dirty and in need of a shower.

 

[Rocky]

It's seems pretty obvious that no matter what was said you would've disagreed. I'm going to have a spin on my bike for a bit, I know I can do that.

Not in the least - what I hate is the cake and eat it approach. Look back at my early posts, I’ve been very supportive of Boris, Whitty and Vallance. I just happen to believe we either prioritise the economy or citizens’ health. We are in danger of doing neither.

 

[tom73]

Just dropped off Mrs 73 off for her covid ICU shift. On the way out I had to wait as the private ambulance was on the way in
We still have a long way to go in this and sadly more will be lost.

 

[gavgav]

was there a change in how far we can *drive* to exercise?

I recall (pre-may 10th): guidelines said a long walk would justify a short drive (but not vice-versa). Location irrelevant (so Middlesex no different from Cumbria);
May 10th speech - "no limit to duration of exercise".

I hope they put a limit on how far you can drive, but it didn’t seem to suggest there would be.....

 

[marinyork]

I'm not attempting to over-simplify matters, far from, but the hysterical knee jerk reactions from the media are of no help whatsoever. It would be good to see such influential channels building on central messages with sound, practical thoughts and advice.

I think the negativity probably reflects what psychologists and various government officials have said, that the public have adhered to the restrictions far more than was modeled/expected and now there's a change people will be anxious, cautious and risk averse generally. Everyone seems to be worried about restrictions lifted, I haven't heard anyone say yippee. The lack of yippees might be because the household mixing already going on the new regs don't make any difference to/don't care. I note the spread of opinions on various polls conducted with the public on different situations e.g. work, public transport, pubs etc.

Public confidence is also based on the soft measures such as communication, the testing regime and the previous week of people. The testing regime, practically, yeah in reality you can't get a test, but it will be a bit of reassurance to some workers. That wasn't something in existence in March. The last week of how peoples' lives were, when people go back to work their views will soften a bit. So for people who aren't care workers, security guards, taxi, bus drivers, hospital and we've spent rather a lot of time at home although it doesn't necessarily represent how it is a lot of people will think yep another week where I haven't got the virus (as the average incubation period) and how people feel may dampen down a little after a couple of weeks.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

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I hope they put a limit on how far you can drive, but it didn’t seem to suggest there would be.....

Not only did Johnson say there was no limit on distance, he was very clear that there is no limit on the *purpose* of driving either. It doesn't have to be for exercise.

Of course, he may well have been contradicting the actual regulations when we see them. It wouldn't surprise me.

 

[tom73]

Borris is back on the TV tonight too at 7pm. Do you think it will have subtitles so we know what it all really means ?
In the mean time we have this

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Borris is back on the TV tonight too at 7pm.

Seriously? Why??

 

[vickster]

Daily press briefing

 

[tom73]

Seriously? Why??

Questions about this 50 page guidelines that are coming out later today.

 

[tom73]

It look's like the NHSx app wont work on Huawei needs Apple IOS 11 upwards or Android 8 upwards as a minimum and phones must have Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE). Wonder how many that rules out ?
The advice is update you software and use BLE.
Older phones can't run them and don't BLE so in other words buy a new phone.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Questions about this 50 page guidelines that are coming out later today.

And Johnson is providing answers to the questions? Jesus. He'll just wing it.

 

[tom73]

Pretty clear message from Nigeria two hotels allegedly violating lockdown have been demolished and management arrested.

 

[marinyork]

Guidance published, but I haven't found it yet. Other new documents have appeared.