Coronavirus outbreak

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vickster

Legendary Member
WTAF :wacko:
Coronavirus: Driver stopped on M6 lockdown trip with wife in boot https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-52088987
 

BoldonLad

Not part of the Elite
Location
South Tyneside
It is a fall - but I doubt it's the start of a downward trend yet - obviously hope I wrong.

Personally, not taking too much notice of the numbers, without testing (both for infection, and past infection), they cannot possibly be accurate anyway. I am waiting for an outburst of optimism ;)
 
Personally, not taking too much notice of the numbers, without testing (both for infection, and past infection), they cannot possibly be accurate anyway. I am waiting for an outburst of optimism ;)

I think the trend is of some value - you can't take the odd day here and there.
 
Think of this whole thing as a selection of Teller Ulam nuclear weapons. Each country has its own ‘size’. When detonated, they all start with a Nagasaki ‘fat man’ / trinity sized explosion, the differences are then in how the fusion / fission stages are arranged / constructed. On current data, it seems that China probably got away with a ‘fat man’ and one stage of the fusion / fission section ( something like an Ivy mike ) Italy seem to have achieved a Castle Bravo ( and I think it’s luck and not judgement it didn’t go ‘Tsar Bomba’ on them) the U.K. looks like it’s probably going to be no worse than China, Germany have got away without igniting the fission / fusion stage ( so Trinity at worst ) as have a lot of the other effected nations so far. The USA are at risk of a quite big one ( somewhere between an Ivy Mike and a Castle Bravo would be my guess ) and Spain looks like it could get away without the full ‘Tsar Bomba’ if things continue as they are at present. Iran and various other nations that aren’t being terribly transparent about their situation, so it’s difficult to tell.

Trinity ( where they all start, and Germany probably will end up)

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fJRP4TCA4Q8


Ivy Mike. ( China and the U.K. )

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tdv9XDUJHEs


Castle Bravo ( Italy and Spain bigger than they planned for )

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LlAmxBj6C1Q


Tsar Bomba ( where no one wants this to go and Italy nearly did)

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BBNhYOmEgy0
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
Moderator
I've had a video conference with Swedish colleagues in the last week where three of them were in the same room - this is absolutely forbidden in the UK by our organisation. Office based employees are still allowed to work from the office, again forbidden in the uk.

Just been chatting to a co- worker; she's been to a cafe this morning and had a coffee, sitting outside alone mind. Restaurants and bars are still open, table service only. No restrictions on exercise or movement. Building work going on as normal.

Her view is that Swedes are very trusting of authority, and are not pushing, and will not push, the boundaries. So lock down not necessary.

I guess we'll see in a month or so how the fatalities are as to whether it's been sufficient.

Interesting how different an approach they have over there.

NB: you can still work in an office here if you cannot carry out your work at home etc - scroll down to 'Keeping your business open' :

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...loyers-and-businesses-on-coronavirus-covid-19
 
Even though I've been guilty of poring over and speculating about the numbers on this very thread, it's reached the point where I need to ask, can we refrain from posting the numbers of fatalities and new cases?

Unless new information comes to light or there's a change in the gradients on the logarithmic scale, the numbers are not helpful since every day will bring new records, and confronting the reality that every single one of these rapidly growing numbers represents a person with all that entails, whilst simultaneously being completely unable to do anything about it is absolutely ruinous to mental health.

Thanks.
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller

vickster

Legendary Member
Even though I've been guilty of poring over and speculating about the numbers on this very thread, it's reached the point where I need to ask, can we refrain from posting the numbers of fatalities and new cases?

Unless new information comes to light or there's a change in the gradients on the logarithmic scale, the numbers are not helpful since every day will bring new records, and confronting the reality that every single one of these rapidly growing numbers represents a person with all that entails, whilst simultaneously being completely unable to do anything about it is absolutely ruinous to mental health.

Thanks.
Indeed, we’re all capable of looking up the numbers should we wish (and they’re announced at the start of the daily press briefing)
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Even though I've been guilty of poring over and speculating about the numbers on this very thread, it's reached the point where I need to ask, can we refrain from posting the numbers of fatalities and new cases?

Unless new information comes to light or there's a change in the gradients on the logarithmic scale, the numbers are not helpful since every day will bring new records, and confronting the reality that every single one of these rapidly growing numbers represents a person with all that entails, whilst simultaneously being completely unable to do anything about it is absolutely ruinous to mental health.

Thanks.

Your right we must not lose sight of the other growing figure of people who recover.
it's important to remember this virus kills and in no way play it down but equally that by doing what we have been asked it can and is saving lives.
 

SpokeyDokey

68, & my GP says I will officially be old at 70!
Moderator
Yeah, that's company rather than government policy.

Their primary schools and kindergartens are still open. And she's still attending her evening class, which astounded me.

Sorry, I'm a bit confused. You said this:

'Office based employees are still allowed to work from the office, again forbidden in the uk.'

Am I missing something?
 
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