Coronavirus outbreak

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deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Location
Armonmy Way
They were dropping locally, Calderdale, but have been reported as being on the increase this month.
It's showing as 17,933 per million, only slightly above Bradford region. I can only see the trends for my own region and it may be going in the wrong direction but, nevertheless, it's at a level lower than my own region has seen this year.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
It's showing as 17,933 per million, only slightly above Bradford region. I can only see the trends for my own region and it may be going in the wrong direction but, nevertheless, it's at a level lower than my own region has seen this year.
It's lower than the start of the year, no doubt there. Just it's seen as the first increase this year.

Maybe the overall figure is down, across the borough, reducing the actual numbers.
 

MrGrumpy

Huge Member
Location
Fly Fifer
Age groups ? Less or more in older or younger population? On the face of it just now it seems younger people in my experience? I’m sure there is uptick down south as well if what I read on twitter was accurate?
 

icowden

Veteran
Location
Surrey
What's going on in Scotland? Official stats say cases are high (10k/million/week) and rising in almost all districts.
It's almost like they have just eased restrictions and people are now free to spread the virus...

Hang on... no - it's *exactly* like that.

Isn't it weird how hospitals want you to do a temperature check and wear a mask but the government doesn't want you to. Is there any way of knowing who is right? Answers on a postcard to...
 

vickster

Legendary Member
It's almost like they have just eased restrictions and people are now free to spread the virus...

Hang on... no - it's *exactly* like that.

Isn't it weird how hospitals want you to do a temperature check and wear a mask but the government doesn't want you to. Is there any way of knowing who is right? Answers on a postcard to...
I wasn't temp checked at an NHS hospital yesterday (and won't be when I go back with my mum later), mask though.
Private hospital did away with temp checks for outpatients some time last year (still checking in-patient admissions though...or they were)
 

midlife

Guru
Our local rate has jumped about 20% over the last week. Outbreaks at the hospitals plus quite a few occupying beds. No data on our intranet since 3rd March when we had 80-90 on the wards. Our maximum peaked at about 300 so still very high.......
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Exit wave. Was expected.
Wasn't that the one over New Year? Is there any limit on the number of exit waves?

Expected by who where? While Scotland's National Clinical Director says not to panic, he also doesn't make any mention of it being an exit wave. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-60637961 which also suggests that it may be due to the even-more-infectious new-Omicron lineage BA.2 spreading in Scotland.
 

markemark

Über Member
Wasn't that the one over New Year? Is there any limit on the number of exit waves?

Expected by who where? While Scotland's National Clinical Director says not to panic, he also doesn't make any mention of it being an exit wave. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-60637961 which also suggests that it may be due to the even-more-infectious new-Omicron lineage BA.2 spreading in Scotland.
There will be an exit wave for each major releasing of restrictions. This is the omicron exit wave. Was expected. It will be manageable and built into to the planning. We had omicron restrictions as the severity and vaccine resistance was unknown. Had we known what we know now we wouldn’t have locked down in December. It was the right decision but we now have a much greater understanding. We are shifting to living with covid and that will mean higher rates of hospitalisation and deaths than during lockdowns. But the difference between omicron and original/alpha/delta means the government has decide the country will accept it.
 

Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
East Devon
We are shifting to living with covid and that will mean higher rates of hospitalisation and deaths than during lockdowns.
Your inference is prospectively very likely false.
Let us know what the periods of "lockdown" which you suggest as a benchmark and we can do a quick check on "hospitalisation and deaths" and compare that with the present or near future forecasts.
The evening regional TV reported that county Medical Officers were recommending that people with COVID or other respiratory symptoms should not visit patients in hospital. Wow! NSS. Did people who were ill think twice about visiting family/friends in hospital back in 2019 and earlier? (Answer: I b****y hope they did; and didn't.)
 

markemark

Über Member
Your inference is prospectively very likely false.
Let us know what the periods of "lockdown" which you suggest as a benchmark and we can do a quick check on "hospitalisation and deaths" and compare that with the present or near future forecasts.
The evening regional TV reported that county Medical Officers were recommending that people with COVID or other respiratory symptoms should not visit patients in hospital. Wow! NSS. Did people who were ill think twice about visiting family/friends in hospital back in 2019 and earlier? (Answer: I b****y hope they did; and didn't.)
Sorry that was wrong. I meant a rise in hospitalisation last and deaths than after lockdowns. It will rise.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Had we known what we know now we wouldn’t have locked down in December.
Scotland didn't lock down in December 2021!

There was advice to cancel Christmas parties on 9 December (repeated 14 December), guidelines on distancing and one-way systems on 16 December and event size limits from 26 December. There were night club closures from 27th but at no point people ordered to stay at home or non-essential businesses ordered to close (aka a lockdown). There was even some relaxation of self-isolation rules on 11 December.
 
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