Coronavirus outbreak

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Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
East Devon
The under 16s will get partial immunity one way or the other (vaccination or natural). Vaccination avoids the risk of 'long covid'. As @Julia9054 says, vaccination also minimises impact on the child's schooling and all those in their 'bubble'. Ours (over 18) are off to test their combined (double dose) vaccination and 'had it' immunity during freshers week.
 

icowden

Veteran
Location
Surrey
That's a 'might'.

Nope it isn't. Covid is running through my daughters school and my wife's school like a fox through chickens. Most of my older daughters year is isolating. There were 2 students out of 8 in her music class (GCSE) yesterday. Adults are also to blame. We know of a large group of adults who became infected following a wine and cheese soiree for example. People are not bothering with precautions because Boris told them not to. Schools aren't able to cope with parents who just send their ill children to school.

The only group of people who still wear masks and observe strict hygiene principles are Clinicians. They must know something the rest of us don't. Its a conspiracy I tell ya!!
 
10 days off school/sports/other activities when they get it.

... and that's if it's symptomatic. If it's not - or if their parents send them to school anyway - they are likely going around distributing the generally-harmless-to-them virus all over the place, placing any number of vulnerable people of all ages at more risk than they need to be.

Mind you, how many non-masking adults are doing the same?

That is the reason we should still be masking when in confined indoor spaces with strangers - any one of us might be asymptomatically infectious, and able to infect the person next to us in the bus or crowd or queue who, unbeknownst to anyone, is one of that 10% who didn't respond to the vaccine or is otherwise vulnerable, yet who appears, currently, to be perfectly well.
 

Julia9054

Guru
Location
Knaresborough
I said "That's a 'might'."

Anecdata, but might reflect wider experience.
I am a teacher, know a lot of teachers in other schools and many of my colleagues are parents with children in different schools. Still anecdata but I can confirm that cases are increasing massively in schools. Currently 2.85% of pupils in my school are off with confirmed covid. As schools are no longer responsible for contact tracing, they are no longer able to tell all the parents in 8ab3 that little Johnny has covid due to confidentiality so rumours of who does or does not have it are circulating only through the kids or through parent WhatsApp groups. Pupils are supplied with lateral flow tests and are supposed to be testing at home twice a week but I think that many will not be due to parental/society’s view that it’s all over.
In one group, we have reached the public health identified “threshold ” of 5 or more cases known to be close contacts so we have gone back to all pupils masked in corridors and the affected year group masked in lessons also. Pupils - who were very compliant last year - are noticeably less so this time reflectingwider societal attitudes
 

IaninSheffield

Veteran
Location
Sheffield, UK
People are not bothering with precautions because Boris told them not to.
Not quite.
Defending someone for whom I have no respect does not come easily, but it's important to strive for accuracy I feel. At the 14th Sept press conference Johnson said:
We will continue to urge everyone to be sensible, to be responsible.
Wash your hands.
Use ventilation.
Consider wearing a face covering in crowded places with people that you don’t know.
Admittedly, urging is not quite the same as instructing.
 

midlife

Guru
Some of my colleagues are off feeling pretty unwell having caught it off their children who picked it up from school.
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
Some of my colleagues are off feeling pretty unwell having caught it off their children who picked it up from school.
That happened a fortnight ago to my daughter in Scotland (Schools there went back earlier than England & Wales). We had been due to go up to visit them, but couldn't because of that. Both she and her son are recovered now though (she was fully vaccinated), and her husband and other son had it last year, so didn't get it this time.
 

midlife

Guru
Glad to hear they have recovered.

Seems odd to wear PPE all day at work including FFP3 respirators if needed and then come home and catch it off your children. The saving grace is that they are fully vaccinated. Bookings open for boosters at work on Monday but they will only do Covid and flu at the same time. The will not do one or the other....
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
Glad to hear they have recovered.

Seems odd to wear PPE all day at work including FFP3 respirators if needed and then come home and catch it off your children. The saving grace is that they are fully vaccinated. Bookings open for boosters at work on Monday but they will only do Covid and flu at the same time. The will not do one or the other....
I'd prefer to get them both at the same time, but suspect that won't be an option here. I have my flu jab booked for November, but don't know when Covid boosters will be available - could even be sooner.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
To say that children are not at particular risk from covid is to miss the bigger picture.
Children need to be vaccinated because that's the only way to achieve herd immunity for everyone.

The elderly and the vulnerable have been double jabbed, but that gives only partial protection that diminishes over time. Exposing them to infected school children would be a mistake.
Children should be vaccinated as soon as it's considered safe enough, in order to spare them the mental health damage of believing they may have killed their elderly or vulnerable relatives.
 

mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
I think it's fairly clear that he's 'playing a role' - he 'likes' the clear, factual rebuttals that are offered! But you are right that some people, especially those coming in newly to the thread, might be misled. Perhaps 'posting as the Devil's Advocate' or something, might make it more obvious!
It's just as well there's no rule in here prohibiting posting views one doesn't hold in order to provoke angry responses(!)
 
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