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icowden

Veteran
Location
Surrey
……….yet we keep getting told 80% of the population are vaccinated and shouldn’t end up in hospital?
That isn't quite what you are being told.
80% of the population are vaccinated and therefore are at decreased risk of ending up in hospital. Of those that are hospitalised those vaccinated are less likely to end up in critical care. Therefore for adults it is a good thing.

Hence we get the nutcases saying things like "most people dying from Covid19 have been immunised", which equates with "most people dying in car accidents are wearing seatbelts". It doesn't mean that vaccination or seatbelts are "bad".
 

lazybloke

Today i follow the flying spaghetti monster
Location
Leafy Surrey
……….yet we keep getting told 80% of the population are vaccinated and shouldn’t end up in hospital?
Headline percentages in news conferences are typically excluded children.

"Our wold in data" calculate as a percentage of UK population and say only 66.8% are fully jabbed.
22 million are not,.
Perhaps not so bad if these potential superspreaders are spaced out across the wider population, but most of them will be the young, who all congregate in tightly packed classrooms, etc.
The latest uptick in infections might correspond to UK schools returning in early Sept.
Those infections then come back to the older generations, none of whom have perfect protection.

We have to live with it, covid isn't likely to go away, even if/when we're all jabbed.

On a slightly more positive note, a number of those 22 million will have acquired antibodies via past infection, so hopefully are not infection vectors at the present time.
 

Milzy

Guru
Brazil are having none of the vaccine yet they just carry on with life. If there were so many deaths there then they’d ask to buy some vaccinations.
It’s all about making money for Big Pharma. In 2 years I’ve known one person who was old and extremely over weight suffer symptoms quite bad & he made a full natural recovery.
 

Rocky

Hello decadence
Brazil are having none of the vaccine yet they just carry on with life. If there were so many deaths there then they’d ask to buy some vaccinations.
It’s all about making money for Big Pharma. In 2 years I’ve known one person who was old and extremely over weight suffer symptoms quite bad & he made a full natural recovery.
I’ve had two of my immediate family die from Covid (last December) before the vaccine was available. I hope you don’t mind me saying that your post is utter bollocks.
 

Rocky

Hello decadence
......and just to add some hard facts: as of 19 Sep, 69.3% of the population of Brazil has had at least one dose of vaccine and 38.1% is fully vaccinated.

Source: Our World in Data
 

Milzy

Guru
......and just to add some hard facts: as of 19 Sep, 69.3% of the population of Brazil has had at least one dose of vaccine and 38.1% is fully vaccinated.

Source: Our World in Data
Fantastic news, it seemed like their PM really didn’t give a hoot about them to begin with.
 

MrGrumpy

Huge Member
Location
Fly Fifer
Brazil are having none of the vaccine yet they just carry on with life. If there were so many deaths there then they’d ask to buy some vaccinations.
It’s all about making money for Big Pharma. In 2 years I’ve known one person who was old and extremely over weight suffer symptoms quite bad & he made a full natural recovery.
You obviously don’t know very many I know off three people this last year who were in ITU ventilated :sad: . My wife lost several of her clients last year due to complications due to covid . Let’s not be to blasé, yes we have to live with it.
 

Milzy

Guru
You obviously don’t know very many I know off three people this last year who were in ITU ventilated :sad: . My wife lost several of her clients last year due to complications due to covid . Let’s not be to blasé, yes we have to live with it.
Sorry to here that but there is an agenda behind the whole virus. Did they die “of” or “with” Covid?
 

Rocky

Hello decadence
Sorry to here that but there is an agenda behind the whole virus. Did they die “of” or “with” Covid?
I think you should stop posting this stuff. Covid is real. It has killed 135,000+ in the UK. My son, as a junior doctor on a Covid ward held the hands of over 20 patients who literally drowned dying of Covid - it is a horrible horrible death. Those dying are alone and scared. There is no debate about how serious this virus is - unless of course you are an airhead Covid-denier.
 

MrGrumpy

Huge Member
Location
Fly Fifer
Sorry to here that but there is an agenda behind the whole virus. Did they die “of” or “with” Covid?
Not seeing the agenda ?? COVID put them into hospitals with all respiratory crap it brings ? A lot of the folk my age that caught COVID have said they have never felt so crap in all their lives ! Yep they didn’t end up in hospital but it kicked the sh…t out of them .
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
Sorry to here that but there is an agenda behind the whole virus. Did they die “of” or “with” Covid?
What exactly do you believe is this "agenda"?

Millions of people around the world have died because of it. Hundreds of thousands in this country alone. Many millions more have been severely ill.

Health services around the world have been overwhelmed or very close to it. The NHS has been very close on a few occasions.

So what is the "agenda"?
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
@Milzy if I understood you correctly, you've previously posted that rather believing this covid denial stuff, you're playing the part of people you've observed doing it for real?

Reading the replies here, if that's the case, it might be time to consider stopping? Or at least making it very clear what you're about.
 
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Brazil are having none of the vaccine yet they just carry on with life. If there were so many deaths there then they’d ask to buy some vaccinations.
It’s all about making money for Big Pharma. In 2 years I’ve known one person who was old and extremely over weight suffer symptoms quite bad & he made a full natural recovery.

Two years? The virus was unknown two years ago.
Brazil is vaccinating frantically; as of 21 Sept, according to the CDC 73.2% of the population have received at least one dose, 40.9% have received two. According to Worldometer, there have been around 600,000 deaths from C-19 in Brazil since the start of the epidemic and that is likely to be an underestimate.

I don't know from what arithmetic book you get your numbers - one written by someone who has a severe case of dyscalculia I think!
 
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