mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
They reached an agreement. Boris shook hands with it(!)
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mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Hell no! That's the sort of tactic you do with small children to get them to shut up until closer to the deadline. Ministers should treat adults like, well, adults. The problem will be solved when it's solved and it depends on what we all do.
That was a partly-political broadcast by the British Tourist Boards. After lockdown 1, we booked a trip at about a week's notice and all the places we stayed were top-notch — and we were nothing like as nationally farked then. I would be astonished if things are more booked-up after lockdowns 3 and 4.Oh please! The only "tail wind" lately is the guff emanating from below ministers' tails that they desperately lip-sync along to when stood at the press conference podium. I see Hancock is hosting today's 5pm attention-seeking show. Would anyone like to bet that he actually has anything to say or show which wouldn't be better in a short statement to Parliament that could be reported and questioned normally?
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Electric_Andy
Heavy Metal Fan
- Location
- Plymouth
I've had an e-mail today from "Luxury Lodges", urging me to book a summer holiday now. I can't help but feel this is their idea of an interest free loan. Book and pay a deposit (the nice lodges are upwards of £400/night), we have your money until August...oh wait we're not allowed to go on holiday...no problem we'll keep your deposit and defer your booking.
but something tells me the UK cannot afford not to open up for summer. My guess is they'll open everything, but you'll still have to wear masks etc and keep 2m apart, much like last summer. Only this time the high risk groups will hopefully be shileding, becasue everyone else will have had the vaccine and think they're immune from both catching and spreading it
but something tells me the UK cannot afford not to open up for summer. My guess is they'll open everything, but you'll still have to wear masks etc and keep 2m apart, much like last summer. Only this time the high risk groups will hopefully be shileding, becasue everyone else will have had the vaccine and think they're immune from both catching and spreading it
- Location
- Somewhere wet & hilly in NW England.
SA variant now spotted in several parts of England according to BBC:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55889391
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55889391
Ajax Bay
Guru
- Location
- East Devon
DCLane
Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
- Location
- Dewsbury, West Yorkshire
That's been SWMBO's and my thoughts about going on holiday this summer. Little chance of going overseas but we might get a chance in the UK, but unlikely.
The government won't be honest and say we'll be under restrictions for all of this year because the population won't follow guidelines and there'll be riots.
Ajax Bay
Guru
- Location
- East Devon
David - we will be under some restrictions for the rest of the year. I don't think government ministers are generally saying that the population won't be under restrictions before the end of the year. Perhaps I have not been listening/looking hard enough.
Looks like Ireland for your family holiday, then. SWMBO will thoroughly deserve it (and give her something to look forward to).
Looks like Ireland for your family holiday, then. SWMBO will thoroughly deserve it (and give her something to look forward to).
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mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Yes and yes.
No, I think it's unlikely. I think there's a fairly narrow path through this without more lockdown after March and there are plenty of ways to slip up and land in the shoot again, including many mistakes made in 2020 which gov.uk shows little sign yet of having learned from.
I think lockdown is more likely to be needed if we suffer more shoot messaging like "Stay Alert" again, if we get more "too little too late" restrictions that the scientists — from the outset — do not expect to be sufficient, or if restrictions keep on appearing to be semi-detached from the reality of the numbers. I also fear that, if a lockdown is needed, Johnson will probably dither and delay yet again.
Ask yourself: did "stay alert" work last time? What will "stay alert" even mean next time? With the UK track record so far, why do you feel it is "the small risk"?
kingrollo
Guru
Well Jono has brought it....said he optimistic people can have summer holidays this year.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
You would not expect the Pfizer jab to provide much protection on that timescale from the data published to date.
Emphasises the importance of keeping the social distancing up post vaccination (not at all suggesting your colleague didn't - more a reflection for the rest of us).
Best wishes for recovery.
When Boris shows me his qualifications as a specialist in new contagious viral infections I will check the university exists and then triple check with actual real specialists in the plural then read the evidence and only the come up with a decision. What I won't do is listen to a government who puts economics over human life and panders to populist politics.
roubaixtuesday
self serving virtue signaller
We had an excellent summer holiday in France last year. Travelled by car, socially distanced whilst there to the same extent we were here ie very much.
I don't see a good reason why the same should not be possible this year, dependent on case rates at the time, of course.
Flying, I wouldn't much fancy, and sterotypical partying holidays a very bad idea.
He's going to be setting out more later this month "about the way ahead" and that "people should certainly be able to plan on that basis".
So no need to panic buy the bog roll we will have plenty of time to stock up in the mean time.
Electric_Andy
Heavy Metal Fan
- Location
- Plymouth
Agree. Domestic holiday travel only. ok, we;re going to have to queue for the toilets, ice creams, cafes (should be takeaway only) but that's fine. We should all be used to that by now. Yes there are some who will break the rules, but they are doing that now anyway. If you're high risk then I doubt you'll be wanting to go to the beach anyway. Keeping 2m apart at the beach, or on a coastal path, is something I do anyway becasue I don't like other people. At least then seasonal staff and businesses who rely on british summer time might not lose out so much, and we can all get outside and breathe in that mental health
