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tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Shift action we can can only dream of one case and a state is locked down.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-55877150
 

Ajax Bay

Guru
Location
East Devon
If anyone thinks that vaccination is going to result in reducing cases quickly, by itself, take a look at Israel's current experience.
They've vaccinated nearly half their population and yet their current daily cases are 78 per 100,000 (7-day average). (This is over twice the UK-wide rate, and worse than the worst borough in UK.)
https://covid19.eng.ox.ac.uk/tracker.html
I wonder if widespread vaccination has meant less adherence to prudent transmission-minimising behaviours? If so that's a lesson we need to keep clearly in mind.
 

AuroraSaab

Veteran
Isn't that because signs of infection can take up to14 days to show and because full immunity after the 2nd jab doesn't kick in for 12 days or more? So theoretically, on the 12th day after you got the jab you could be infected with covid, but not show symptoms until 14 days later. The stats will lag behind at least a couple of weeks I guess.

Israel have done an amazing job in getting people vaccinated though and in a way it's useful to have one country ahead of the rest as their data can inform procedures elsewhere.

I do think there will be a general fall into complacency once the jabs are done, especially amongst the young. Hopefully they will keep the mask requirement and social distancing regs for quite a while.

I have to say, after the sheer heartbreak and tragedy of the last year, the fast roll out of the vaccine is such a welcome bit of light at the end of the tunnel. 600k given yesterday in the UK.
 
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nickyboy

Norven Mankey
West Australia goes into 5 day UK-style lockdown over one case. Politically motivated decision as elections are coming in March and these lockdowns are generally vote winners in Oz.

However to go from "fully open" to "fully closed" with virtually no notice is causing uproar. Hospitality had been buying perishable products full steam ahead for the summer trade.....
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Lay an extra place, I'm on my way!

Wrong thread - what a plonker I am.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Brings to mind a question as currently the law says they can't trade. But they do so then that's an unlawful activity. Wonder if anything was to happen and they had call to claim on insurance. As the actively would be unlawful can't see a claim going down well. Now if they have a mortgage or bank load and they require the insurance in place. Then the £17K won't be the only thing they have to worry about.
Breaking the court order preventing her from opening will be a bigger problem.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
West Australia goes into 5 day UK-style lockdown over one case. Politically motivated decision as elections are coming in March and these lockdowns are generally vote winners in Oz.

However to go from "fully open" to "fully closed" with virtually no notice is causing uproar. Hospitality had been buying perishable products full steam ahead for the summer trade.....

Right and the way we've gone about it is not at all politically motivated at all is ?
Remind me how many months has Australia had now living on the whole as before?
Oh and just what is the death total for Australia give you a clue is less than we have in month.
If you ask the family and friends of the 100,000 and growing that have lost someone I'm sure they'd be happy with a quick lockdown that's Politically motivated than the politically motivated balls up we've had to live with.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
If things get really bad and it gets to court orders to get fines paid and she ends up bring locked up. She then really got things to worry about she will soon understand covid is not to be messed with.
It's got that far. She's prevented from opening until the end of March, by order of the court. She set out to break that order, as part of a nationwide protest on Saturday.

Police were waiting for her, as she'd made it known, on twitter & facebook, she would be opening.

She'll be back in court again.
 

aferris2

Guru
Location
Up over
Oh and just what is the death total for Australia give you a clue is less than we have in month.
Actually, according to Worldometers, it's 909 so sadly about the same as our average per day at the moment.
We were in WA when this whole thing kicked off last year and from the end of March until the beginning of June we did not move from the campsite we were in (and there were police patrols everywhere to make sure no one went anywhere). I get that overall Australia has a lower population density than the UK, but it's not much different in the cities. Australia acted fast and hard and it has meant a faster return to "normal".
They've got their own problems now because the numbers are so low (see here). One case and its instant lockdown, but hopefully this will be just for the 5 days. It's interesting looking at the number of international cases that are getting in (but only to quarantine) even though numbers are severely limited and testing is in place before flying into the country.
 

tom73

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
Actually, according to Worldometers, it's 909 so sadly about the same as our average per day at the moment.
We were in WA when this whole thing kicked off last year and from the end of March until the beginning of June we did not move from the campsite we were in (and there were police patrols everywhere to make sure no one went anywhere). I get that overall Australia has a lower population density than the UK, but it's not much different in the cities. Australia acted fast and hard and it has meant a faster return to "normal".
They've got their own problems now because the numbers are so low (see here). One case and its instant lockdown, but hopefully this will be just for the 5 days. It's interesting looking at the number of international cases that are getting in (but only to quarantine) even though numbers are severely limited and testing is in place before flying into the country.
The use of the word month was more about a making the point that is less then we we’ve had all round.
What ever issues they have they’d already had inquires into them and learned. We however carry on going round and round.
 
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