Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

[classic33]

And this virus, like many others, doesn't know how to discriminate on the basis of health or wealth.

It serves to remind us just how little we can actually do. Death awaits us all, even those cryogenically frozen(t'ain't cheap), but like a few more on here I'd like to be around a bit longer yet.

"Normal" keeps on popping up in these threads. Define "normal", anyone!

 

[Landsurfer]

Since we are all incredibly rich ... our first world problems are all up for discussion .... Classic33 and Oldhippy, you more than most on here understand our wealth ... health system.. NHS / NCS, Dental care, pensions, Education .... food available everywhere we turn ... we all know our "hell" of C-19 is so much better than so much of the worlds experience ... any way back to the dog poo fairies .... take care, don't stay safe .....

 

[classic33]

Since we are all incredibly rich ... our first world problems are all up for discussion .... Classic33 and Oldhippy, you more than most on here understand our wealth ... health system.. NHS / NCS, Dental care, pensions, Education .... food available everywhere we turn ... we all know our "hell" of C-19 is so much better than so much of the worlds experience ... any way back to the dog poo fairies .... take care, don't stay safe .....

It's not just a first world issue/problem though. It's worldwide, doesn't discriminate, and knows no man-made boundaries.

 

[Landsurfer]

It's not just a first world issue/problem though. It's worldwide, doesn't discriminate, and knows no man-made boundaries.

Please, it does discriminate ... thats the problem .... it's very discriminatory ...... I'm 62 , healthy and not remotely frightened for my own personal health ... If I was 72, with the underlying health issues i could expect at that age, i would be worried, very worried ... and would be keeping well away from people like me ...

 

[snorri]

And after 9 months of people not following the rules what is going to make them start now ... ?

Heavier punishments for rule breakers, and the same for infringements causing or likely to cause RTCs.

 

[Rickshaw Phil]

Mod note:

Once again the thread seems to be straying into debate that ought to be in the other thread. I'm also not happy to see it getting personal.

Back on topic and keep it civil from here please.

Thank you.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Please, it does discriminate ... thats the problem .... it's very discriminatory ...... I'm 62 , healthy and not remotely frightened for my own personal health ... If I was 72, with the underlying health issues i could expect at that age, i would be worried, very worried ... and would be keeping well away from people like me ...

There are two problems there, one is that it doesn't just affect older people. I have asthma, which puts me on the "at risk" list, and I'm the main earner for my family, and I work in an essential service on psychological care so I can't stop work.

The other is that the logical conclusion of the policy you appear to describe is to remove the freedom of anyone at risk to an absurd (and in Germany unconstitutional) degree, for an indefinite period. The resulting psychological issues caused to vulnerable members of society, in terms of illness and excess deaths, could be almost as serious as the Corona virus itself, and would cost a comparable amount to fix.

 

[classic33]

Please, it does discriminate ... thats the problem .... it's very discriminatory ...... I'm 62 , healthy and not remotely frightened for my own personal health ... If I was 72, with the underlying health issues i could expect at that age, i would be worried, very worried ... and would be keeping well away from people like me ...

I've underlying health issues, but the people I know who have tested positive for this virus have no known underlying issues. Nearly all have been younger, and the one who died from it was younger than me.

Looking at this from the point of someone with lifelong health issues, makes it hard to work out which will kill me. Should I be more worried more that the virus may get me, than the long-term health issues. I can't even answer my own question.

 

[classic33]

Mod note:

Once again the thread seems to be straying into debate that ought to be in the other thread. I'm also not happy to see it getting personal.

Back on topic and keep it civil from here please.

Thank you.

I apologise if my posts have come across as personal.

I know I'll not be allowed any vaccine/jab due to underlying conditions. This means having to look at this a different way. None will just disappear, I've to manage the current situation as best as I can. The virus and everything else. There's no separating one from the others, they all have an impact on one another.

It's the indirect impact of the virus that has had the biggest impact on me.

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I've treated this current situation as another "minor inconvenience". The same way I have with many because of epilepsy. Both have limited some of the things that can be done, at times that's been doing nothing. I'm not going to have someone telling me what they feel either limits me from doing. It's not a case of me ignoring it either. Both require some give on my side.

I'll say there's many more with long term health conditions, that are thinking/acting in a similar manner.
Simple, everyday things that others do without a second thought are a big "No" for me.

 

[midlife]

Please, it does discriminate ... thats the problem .... it's very discriminatory ...... I'm 62 , healthy and not remotely frightened for my own personal health ... If I was 72, with the underlying health issues i could expect at that age, i would be worried, very worried ... and would be keeping well away from people like me ...

I'm 61 and the opposite to you as I have seen what it can do so am pretty worried and concerned to say the least if I get it!!

 

[Bazzer]

Please, it does discriminate ... thats the problem .... it's very discriminatory ...... I'm 62 , healthy and not remotely frightened for my own personal health ... If I was 72, with the underlying health issues i could expect at that age, i would be worried, very worried ... and would be keeping well away from people like me ...

This is possibly part of the problem. People not being concerned for their own health but this impacts in numerous ways upon others, who for whatever reason/s are.

 

[The Crofted Crest]

@Rocky, a grateful nation says thanks to the Rockette!

 

[All uphill]

Thanks @classic33 for an individual perspective that reminds us that we divide humanity into a few enormous categories at the risk of over simplifying and coming to dangerous conclusions.

In July our 27 year old son was healthy, energetic and pursuing a rewarding career in one of the big cities. Now he is back living with Mum and dad, struggling daily with long covid.

I find people assuming they will be ok rather annoying.

 

[Bazzer]

Oh how I so wish Covid was more discriminatory!
The next door neighbour who had 5 cars of visitors on Christmas Day had 2 more today, on the day we moved into Tier 4. The look of shock on his face and his vocal stumblings as he saw me and my youngest daughter as he then asked his guests to go down the far side of the house into his garden, rather than through the front door, suggests he was not expecting me my youngest daughter to be working on her car in the snow. Aside from being in Tier 4, of course his guests were entertained in his garden (not).
It's no effing wonder this virus is causing chaos.😡

 

[midlife]

Not sure you are allowed visitors in the garden under tier 4?