Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

[PK99]

China has stricter lockdowns now the economy is back to normal.

China welded shut gates to residential compounds, monitored movement by drones and banned people leaving home other than to buy food.

 

[Oldhippy]

Business be damned. Economics sadly always seem to be more important than life! Why not work on a fairer system of wealth where everyone benefits and not just the privileged.

 

[Landsurfer]

Sorry to butt in but read the paragraph above. I think that we will have to completely rethink economic structure, work practices and get used to the idea of a new normal. Diseases don't generally pay any attention to inconvenient problems caused to us. A new 'normal' is likely.

But there have been virus's before ... more deadly than this one .. and the economy has recovered and we returned to "normal" not that we ever left "normal" in the past ...
Are we sure we need to change the world economic structure for this ... or is this the right time and the virus is pointing the way ... robotic production, Universal Income etc ....

 

[Landsurfer]

Business be damned. Economics sadly always seem to be more important than life! Why not work on a fairer system of wealth where everyone benefits and not just the privileged.

Rubbish ... those of us that work for a living, support our families, are not economical privileged and we are the majority...

 

[Oldhippy]

Now is a once in a lifetime chance to change things for the better humanity and climate. Sadly we will just pox it up like always and return to ruining the only planet we have and keeping the privileged in their place.

 

[Oldhippy]

I work hard for a living and always have.

 

[Landsurfer]

Now is a once in a lifetime chance to change things for the better humanity and climate. Sadly we will just pox it up like always and return to ruining the only planet we have and keeping the privileged in their place.

Sadly, in my heart i agree with you ... but socialism and its various formats always end up in the same fascist / totalitarian place ...

 

[lane]

China welded shut gates to residential compounds, monitored movement by drones and banned people leaving home other than to buy food.

Correct. It appears to have been a very effective policy.

 

[Oldhippy]

I have had the good fortune to travel the world and seen the best and worst of humanity. Without exception the rich did best the poor died. The one chance in modern times to even the field for all will fail. With a virus at least it doesn't give a crap how much you have and will kill regardless.

 

[PK99]

Correct. It appears to have been a very effective policy.

A policy you would recommend for the UK?

 

[Landsurfer]

I have had the good fortune to travel the world and seen the best and worst of humanity. Without exception the rich did best the poor died. The one chance in modern times to even the field for all will fail. With a virus at least it doesn't give a crap how much you have and will kill regardless.

Sorry Oldhippy, the core of this discussion is that this virus does not kill regardless .... it's pretty specific ....

 

[Oldhippy]

Apologies.

 

[classic33]

Can I ask if you are on an income based on pension(s) or an active generator of your prime income through full time employment ...
There is a feeling amongst my colleagues and myself that many of those who advocate shutting down the economy are insulated from it's failure, ... retirement, pension etc.
If thats not the case then I think that you are unusual in your stance that "another set of severe restrictions would be in order."
Many of my friends are self employed in industries that have been badly affected by lockdowns, 1 is facing repossession of his home, despite government assurance, ... but thats just my bubble / network ..

I'd support another lockdown, if only because I'm being selfish and thinking of myself.

The longer it takes to get this under control, the longer three conditions(medical) go untreated.

 

[Landsurfer]

I'd support another lockdown, if only because I'm being selfish and thinking of myself.

The longer it takes to get this under control, the longer three conditions(medical) go untreated.

My wife is waiting for a spinal nerve block operation, due last April, and a hip replacement so we are singing off the same hymn sheet ...

 

[classic33]

Money is no good if it means you're the richest man in the graveyard.

Edited to remove quoted post.