Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

[vickster]

Does anyone know how the signing in thing works in Scotland ? eg some of the Edinburgh libraries have started to reopen but they are insisting on you signing in as you enter. So does that mean that during the time of your visit if anyone anywhere in the building subsequently tests positive then everyone in the building at the time will need to isolate for 2 weeks ? Even though most people in the building will not have been within 2m of the positive case for even a second never mind 15 minutes.

This tells you about the Scottish NHS app assuming that’s what they are using
https://protect.scot/how-it-works

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

This tells you about the Scottish NHS app assuming that’s what they are using
https://protect.scot/how-it-works

No this has nothing to do with the app. There's no mention of the app on the libraries website. Nor do I have the app.

 

[vickster]

No this has nothing to do with the app. There's no mention of the app on the libraries website. Nor do I have the app.

Well you’d need to download it if they are using the app. I don’t know what else they’d be using being a municipal building, pretty much everywhere around here is using it, just a QR code to scan at the entrance, gym, shops, hairdresser, hospital).
Why not just phone your local library to ask and then you’d know for sure

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

This is what the library’s FAQ says

NHS Scotland may ask us for details of those individuals who were present. If you were near someone at the library who tests positive for Coronavirus, NHS Scotland will get in touch

The question is how could they know if you were near someone ?? My concern is that they will just take blanket action and tell everyone to self isolate. “If in doubt, flat out” as it were.

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

Well you’d need to download it if they are using the app. I don’t know what else they’d be using being a municipal building, pretty much everywhere around here is using it, just a QR code to scan at the entrance, gym, shops, hairdresser, hospital).
Why not just phone your local library to ask and then you’d know for sure

I wouldn’t know who to ring. The library will just refer me to NHS Scotland. The library is simply collecting details and passing them on. They won’t know how NHS Scotland is using them.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Does anyone know how the signing in thing works in Scotland ? eg some of the Edinburgh libraries have started to reopen but they are insisting on you signing in as you enter. So does that mean that during the time of your visit if anyone anywhere in the building subsequently tests positive then everyone in the building at the time will need to isolate for 2 weeks ? Even though most people in the building will not have been within 2m of the positive case for even a second never mind 15 minutes.

Ring them and ask?

 

[Flick of the Elbow]

The gov.scot page simply says

The contact tracing service would use the information provided by a business or organisation, relevant to a positive case's whereabouts during the infectious period, to inform the process of identifying close contacts where this is a risk of infection. There is no circumstance in which establishments should use the data to directly contact visitors, customers or staff, even in the event of a known outbreak within premises. Health protection teams will decide on a case-by-case basis on what follow-up action to take.

Case by case sounds good but in the current prevalence, 1000 new cases a week in Lothian, I can’t imagine it's going to be anything other than blanket.

 

[MrGrumpy]

Surely the number of people allowed in buildings are limited so that social distancing can be adhered too ? Reduce the risk. Funnily enough there are 5 folk isolating in another company building through west. 1 is positive , his two shift mates are isolating no symptoms but two others were also contacted by track and trace and also asked to isolate. They are adamant they have been in no close contact !

 

[nickyboy]

We are currently in T2, but just across the border from Gtr Manchester which will be T3 as of tonight. We are also on a trainline directly from Gtr Manchester (about 30 minutes from the city centre)

Much talk on socials about the likelihood of groups of T3 residents coming to our town this weekend to go to the pub. Landlords already saying they will only serve known locals. Discussion on how to marshal the train station (it would be very easy to identify groups coming for a night out)

We are, after all, a local town for local people

 

[vickster]

Surely the number of people allowed in buildings are limited so that social distancing can be adhered too ? Reduce the risk. Funnily enough there are 5 folk isolating in another company building through west. 1 is positive , his two shift mates are isolating no symptoms but two others were also contacted by track and trace and also asked to isolate. They are adamant they have been in no close contact !

Do they not share facilities such as toilets or kitchens?

 

[vickster]

All clear here...swab tested on Friday on entry to Jersey for a long weekend, negative (luckily or I would have had to isolate there for 2 weeks !!)
and again on Tuesday in advance of hospital admission, negative and self isolating since (other than to put the bins out )

 

[fossyant]

We are currently in T2, but just across the border from Gtr Manchester which will be T3 as of tonight. We are also on a trainline directly from Gtr Manchester (about 30 minutes from the city centre)

Much talk on socials about the likelihood of groups of T3 residents coming to our town this weekend to go to the pub. Landlords already saying they will only serve known locals. Discussion on how to marshal the train station (it would be very easy to identify groups coming for a night out)

We are, after all, a local town for local people

I could just cycle over the gated border ! Or I'll head to New Mills, or Strines or a few pubs in Mellor. Given where I am, despite T3, probably has very similar infection rates to High Peak. Not sure the bumpkins would be happy if it was the other way round !

TBH, not been to the pub in an evening since all this started.

 

[fossyant]

And the news

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-54642999

 

[classic33]

And the news

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-54642999

Fair play to them.
Now a few more like them will be needed.

 

[lane]

Interesting points. I will in all likelihood be travelling into a tier 3 area most week days for work. At the weekend should I avoid my usual cycle routes that travel into the area?

Luckily manged to answer my own question

"People in lower risk areas can travel through high risk areas “as part of a longer journey”.

So if I start the ride at home (tier 2) ride through neighboring Nottingham (soon to be tier 3) and end up back home in tier 2 I am all good because it is part of a longer journey.