Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

[roubaixtuesday]

I know what the CPS guidelines are equally I know what being fair and responsible is. You have a choice the law say's I can so I will or I can play my part in protecting everyone and not push it. I've posted on another thread why i've taken the choice I have re being out on the bike. Guess when your wife is on the frontline dealing with this mess it makes you see things differently.

How on earth is following the guidance not being fair and responsible?

I genuinely don't understand your point.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

this attitude is TOTALLY unreasonable,

Why? How can following the advice on what is reasonable possibly be unreasonable?

Honestly, you've completely lost me here. Help please!

 

[marinyork]

I know a very large number of responsible people who hold the view that this attitude is TOTALLY unreasonable, and I am one of them!!

It's human nature to have a wide range of reactions to something like this.

The models rely on a percentage of people sticking to the guidelines and of those that don't still reducing contact.

 

[Andy in Germany]

I know a very large number of responsible people who hold the view that this attitude is TOTALLY unreasonable, and I am one of them!!

I sort of see the point, but it raises the question of why Germany has a lower rate of infection than the UK, and a much lower rate of death from the virus, even though we don't have this limit.

If you feel it is unreasonable for you, that's fine. but if you are trying to persuade others to agree I think it needs a bit more science or reasoning.

 

[Ming the Merciless]

Good today, resting heart rate and blood pressure in the normal ranges.

 

[tom73]

How on earth is following the guidance not being fair and responsible?

I genuinely don't understand your point.

I can go out on the bike for say 2/3 hours , then take the dog out , then go to the shop , then to the next one as the 1st one did not sell the right brand , then the next and so on then come home , later take a drive out to pet shop , then call in at the allotment (if i had one), then take my wife to her night shift then drive home.
All within the law and guidelines. But I don't because it's not being responsible and grown up about it.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

I can go out on the bike for say 2/3 hours , then take the dog out , then go to the shop , then to the next one as the 1st one did not sell the right brand , then the next and so on then come home , later take a drive out to pet shop , then call in at the allotment (if i had one), then take my wife to her night shift then drive home.
All within the law and guidelines. But I don't because it's not being responsible and grown up about it.

But that wasn't what you responded to.

How is cycling alone for 2-3 hours not responsible?

It's clearly within the guidance.

I don't understand your response at all.

 

[Smokin Joe]

I sort of see the point, but it raises the question of why Germany has a lower rate of infection than the UK, and a much lower rate of death from the virus, even though we don't have this limit.

If you feel it is unreasonable for you, that's fine. but if you are trying to persuade others to agree I think it needs a bit more science or reasoning.

Germany is 47% larger in area than the UK but the number of inhabitants is only about 18% higher, so a lower population density must be a contributer to those figures.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Germany is 47% larger in area than the UK but the number of inhabitants is only about 18% higher, so a lower population density must be a contributer to those figures.

Except that our cities have a much higher population density than many in the UK. I was quite startled when helping Middle Son with a project on York, to find that whereas York has a population density of 506 people per Km² our local town of Esslingen, which is quite similar in appearance, has a distinctly snug 2015 people per Km², and this is by no means the most built up area in Germany. Compared to the UK, people tend to live in low-rise apartments of 2-3 floors here, even villages have this arrangement which is why, if you look at a German village they are often fairly compact compared to the UK equivalent.

Either way it wouldn't account for the large and growing difference between the UK and Germany. Corona related deaths in the UK are now over three times those in Germany, even though the total number of cases in the UK is still lower.

 

[newfhouse]

if you are trying to persuade others to agree I think it needs a bit more science or reasoning.

Oh, behave!

For the record, I choose to limit my rides to about an hour because if I have an unrepairable failure I can probably still manage a long walk home without needing any interaction. It’s not the law, it’s not within the NPCC guidance, but it feels within the sprit and intention of the regs.

Carry on.

 

[Andy in Germany]

Oh, behave!

For the record, I choose to limit my rides to about an hour because if I have an unrepairable failure I can probably still manage a long walk home without needing any interaction. It’s not the law, it’s not within the NPCC guidance, but it feels within the sprit and intention of the regs.

Carry on.

Who, me?

I suppose that is a factor: I'm relatively confident that I can fix things on a ride, and I rarely have a mechanical on my bikes; I even measure the time between punctures in years, so I guess I don't expect to have a problem. That said I ride in loops so it isn't too far to walk back should the need arise.

On the other hand, I really need to keep my riding up to keep my immunity against Corona as high as possible for when I start work next month.

 

[DaveReading]

I know a very large number of responsible people who hold the view that this attitude is TOTALLY unreasonable, and I am one of them!!

Would you care to explain why ?

Either being out on a bike is irresponsible, putting yourself and/or others at risk of catching the virus, in which case you shouldn't be cycling at all.

Or it isn't.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Never existed, apparently rumour from a comment made by Michael Gove

....like most of what comes out of his mouth....
If Gove’s lips are moving, he’s lying....

 

[Julia9054]

These days I am a not particularly fast cyclist who enjoys long rides and cafe stops.
Obviously the cafe stops are now not a thing so I do rides from my home of a length I would usually do before stopping to stuff my cake hole. Which in my case is about 35 miles.
I am aware that I am incredibly lucky that I live in a small North Yorkshire market town and within 1 mile of my front door I am in open countryside. Social distancing is much easier for me than for many others.

 

[vickster]

....like most of what comes out of his mouth....
If Gove’s lips are moving, he’s lying....

I have no opinion about him to be honest