Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

You have the virus

  • Yes

    Votes: 57 21.2%
  • I've been quaranteened

    Votes: 19 7.1%
  • I personally know someone who has been diagnosed

    Votes: 71 26.4%
  • Clear as far as I know

    Votes: 150 55.8%

  • Total voters
    269
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Accy cyclist

Legendary Member
Does the USA have its own version of April Fools Day,as in today? I'm hearing that President Trump suggests that injecting oneself with disinfectant such as Domestos will kill coronavirus in the body.:dry:
 

silva

Über Member
Location
Belgium
If it wasn't for the government forced freedom restrictions I wouldn't have noticed there was a flu season more than in other years.
 

Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
Been for walk in local park. Trying to alternate cycling and walking to maintain bone health. Park much emptier in places, pre lockdown levels. Wonder if outdoor exercise fatigue has arrived for those not used to it. Or they have got bored or found there are more places to exercise other than the park.
 

SkipdiverJohn

Deplorable Brexiteer
Location
London
Either way it wouldn't account for the large and growing difference between the UK and Germany. Corona related deaths in the UK are now over three times those in Germany, even though the total number of cases in the UK is still lower.

It comes down to how many are getting tested and who is getting tested. In Germany, testing is more widespread, so virus carriers who are not seriously ill are being identified in large numbers. Because they aren't that ill, proportionally less of them die.
In the UK, generally only those who have had a bad enough dose of virus to put them in hospital are being tested and identified, and more die because they are in a worse state.
The true infection rate in the UK probably runs to several millions, but most have never been positively identified as having the virus.
I wouldn't be too smug about the relatively low number of deaths in Germany if I were you. Deaths can lag infections for several reasons, and when things start to catch up. Germany's rate could soar like it has in many other places.
 
There is no one hour rule. This has been shown many, many times but still people refer to it. :banghead: I will adhere to it when it becomes a rule, or even shorter times if they become a rule.

Why is a two hour walk more acceptable than a 90 minute bike ride?
I knew I shouldn't have spoken so soon. We have just had fresh guidelines from the First Minister of the Welsh Assembly. Here is a copy of the bits referring to cycling:

"What do the new rules on exercise say?
That it should be taken "as close as possible to the home".

You should not drive away from home to exercise, with no journeys "of any significant distance".


How often can you exercise?
Once a day. The time limit is not spelled out, but the rules say four or five hours is out of the question. You must not meet up with friends and must stay two metres apart from other people.

How far are you allowed to cycle?
A "reasonable walking distance from home". This is not spelled out exactly, but the rules say an accident a long way from home could put more pressure on the NHS.

Can you cycle to work?
Only if going to work is justified.

What other rules must cyclists follow?
They must cycle alone, or with people from their home. They must stick to routes they know and take care of walkers, runners or other cyclists.

They must stay two metres apart and stop to let people go by."


Here is the BBC Wales news item:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52416541


I am obviously going to have to plan my routes a bit more carefully. Luckily I live on the edge of the city and can be in the countryside in five minutes so can do a few loops.

I am a bit perturbed that they only see fit to tell cyclists to take care of walkers and runners, and tell us to stop to let people go by. Certainly putting us in our place.

So a lot tougher than England and there are still a lot of areas that are unclear, but that's Mark Drakeford for you
 

silva

Über Member
Location
Belgium
There is an objective measurement at hand: the surplus deaths relative to the "normal" death rate (based on population size and life expectancy). In past years with flu seasons, that surplus deaths correlated in time very closely with reported flu figures.
And this comparison can be made immediately, since deaths are reported immediately.
In the past weeks I looked up alot figures related to influenza types flu data from countries / world and frankly, it's hard to call this corona type exceptional.
The only clear differences now are that death tolls get reported every day as headline news, and that governments started to place the same ugly freedom restrictions some of their predecessors did in history.
 
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