Corona Virus: How Are We Doing?

You have the virus

  • Yes

    Votes: 57 21.2%
  • I've been quaranteened

    Votes: 19 7.1%
  • I personally know someone who has been diagnosed

    Votes: 71 26.4%
  • Clear as far as I know

    Votes: 150 55.8%

  • Total voters
    269
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Ming the Merciless

There is no mercy
Location
Inside my skull
Better not drive the car to the shops in case i have an accident, better not do the gardening in case i have an accident, maybe not use the kettle in case i burn myself, Cant use the turbo in case i trap my bits some where, Maybe we should all stay in bed and do nothing.:wacko::wacko:

Makes my blood boil, people falling out of bed...
 

Joey Shabadoo

My pronouns are "He", "Him" and "buggerlugs"
My father died a week ago from the virus. I thought I would give a rough description of his last week weeks.

Around the 1st day he was feeling a little run-down, with a percussive double-cough which he couldn't suppress.

In three days he was suffering pretty much the onset of a fairly bad bout of the flu. He had managed to cough less, but had sore throats, bad tummy trouble. His sense of taste was fading fast away.

By the 7th day he was pretty much floored. All google searching and emails stopped then. At night he was sweating blankets sodden. He had lost his appetite and couldn't swallow or drink enough calories. That lasted three nights.

We got excited because he hadn't had a super sweaty night. He even claimed he thought he could taste the coffee a bit better. At this point my mother improved, but dad worsened.

He had taken to controlling his breathing to suppress what he thought would be exhausting coughs. I suspect this was him having trouble breathing, but he believed he was managing his recovery. But all evidence suggests he was struggling more than he was letting on, reading his flamboyant writing, now a scrawl.

However he started to have cognitive difficulties due to a dropping spO2 level. He went to the Out of Hours on the 12th day.

We thought he was saved. He perked up immediately. But the virus was doing its thing, destroying his lungs initially.

Oxygen mask -> CPAP Machine -> Ventilator.

Following that was two weeks of decline, some improvement, some more decline.

Kidneys failed first, and dialysis was unreliable due to clotting and fluid issues. Then heart had problems due to fluids and electrolyte problems.

They got over most of that, but the damage didn't really come under control and he was lost to us on the 30th day, despite the best possible care.

He was flying about the place two weeks prior to getting sick, and he probably caught it trying to get the loo rolls everyone thought they were missing out on. A man who was utterly full of mischief, and fun - chasing his grandchildren on long walks over Christmas.

And what an education on grief.

I couldn't comfort my mum in person during her recovery. By the time I was able to visit, he was two days from death. If she had held his hand during his final moments which is a privilege she was offered having contracted it at the same time , she'd have had to see out two more weeks of quarantine without hugs and support she so much required. They sent the sad evidence on the NHS system, after 4 days of pictures of him looking great on a ventilator, but sadly he wasn't making the recovery we so desperately needed.

And as for the funeral - understated for such a loved and flamboyant man. His eldest son unable to attend from overseas. Me managing the affairs as best I can.

I think this is the longest I have been without crying.

I never understood grief before. I have felt loss, I have understood other's pain when I have seen it in a very superficial way, I now see. I didn't know pain like this in my blessed life so far.

Please stay safe. This virus doesn't really care. I think it shaved at least ten good years and however many bad off that man's life.

Thank you to the NHS team in Lanarkshire for doing an incredible job, at this unreal time. God bless them all.

That's terrible but thank you for sharing. I wish more people could read this and learn the reality.
 

gaijintendo

Veteran
Location
Scotchland
That's terrible but thank you for sharing. I wish more people could read this and learn the reality.
That was my motivation for posting it, I really don't want people taking risks - especially if you've been given a bracelet or condition card. I know you feel great but this virus is allowing your immune system to attack you, and you are only as good as your weakest organ.

I really appreciate the kind messages, but ultimately, if anyone is taking this lightly, and should maybe have another think - I'd be happy to talk to them. DM me if I can call someone you care about.
 
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I totally agree that exercise is allowed, but we have read on here in numerous posts about people who are doing rides of 20, 30, 40, 50 or more miles a day, now they are taking the proverbial.
I have also read on here about numerous people who are taking this issue as seriously as we are, but hey ho, in all walks of life there are always going to be those idiots that don't think the restrictions apply to them!!

I go for a 20 mile ride every other day (taking no risks). I am a 73 year old asthmatic trying to build up my fitness after a layoff. I am classed as one of the vulnerable category but I want to make sure that my overall health, strength and lungs are as good as they can be so that if I am unlucky enough to catch this virus I will stand just a little bit more chance of getting through it.

I am aware of the restrictions and I adhere to the rules on exercise, social distancing and shopping for essentials, set by the government on the advice of medical experts (who know a little bit more about it than you do).

More accidents requiring hospital treatment occur in and around the home, especially in kitchens, descending stairs or doing diy, than cycling so perhaps the only way to avoid the risk of accidents is to stay in bed and do nothing all day.

I hope you are wearing sunscreen in your garden on the trainer as I hear sunburn can be nasty and cause hospitalisation.
 

woodbutcher

Veteran
Location
S W France
It makes my blood boil when I here cyclists saying they are out training................. now come on for heavens sake, be responsible and observe the full meaning of the laws of our land!
You might think you are safe, you might think you aren't endangering anyone, but what happens if you have an accident, what happens if you unfortunately ride into a pothole and go base over apex into the road smashing yourself up good and proper in the process. Then because of your selfish exercising at least 1 or more police cars would have to come out to you along with at least one paramedic and then an ambulance and all because you, you selfish 'B' were only doing a bit of exercise on your bike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cursing::cursing::cursing:

Boring as it is, we are doing all of our exercise on our turbo trainers in our own back garden, endangering absolutely no one.
I couldn't agree more , well said sir !
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
Taking a longer term view now we have been in lockdown around a month, i notice a few things....

I'm ok, i'm working, i have contact with people, chit chat, stimulation, whatever you like to call day to day interaction with people.

My wife, classed as vulnerable is off on full pay and has been for a month. She is trying to do everything right and has only been out the house maybe 3 times...and i can see its effecting her.
She is bored, unstimulated, struggling for motivation.

I went to mums last night, similar circumstances to my wife, but mums age is the key factor....and while shes physically ok, i sense more and more she is struggling in conversation, losing her thread a bit. She is 90 and that may well be a huge factor....but 1 month sat indoors with just a daily phone call or two and the absolute minimum visits may be taking its toll as well.
 

Dave7

Legendary Member
Location
Cheshire
I go for a 20 mile ride every other day (taking no risks). I am a 73 year old asthmatic trying to build up my fitness after a layoff. I am classed as one of the vulnerable category but I want to make sure that my overall health, strength and lungs are as good as they can be so that if I am unlucky enough to catch this virus I will stand just a little bit more chance of getting through it.

I am aware of the restrictions and I adhere to the rules on exercise, social distancing and shopping for essentials, set by the government on the advice of medical experts (who know a little bit more about it than you do).

More accidents requiring hospital treatment occur in and around the home, especially in kitchens, descending stairs or doing diy, than cycling so perhaps the only way to avoid the risk of accidents is to stay in bed and do nothing all day.

I hope you are wearing sunscreen in your garden on the trainer as I hear sunburn can be nasty and cause hospitalisation.
Rusty.
Everyone can find reasons why their exercise is acceptable.
You say you adhere to to the rules but then say you do 20 mile rides..... way over the one hour rule (unless you are very good).
Lots of nice people on here doing 50+ miles. I honestly have no problem with that as I cannot judge.......we did a 2 hour walk yesterday. I am honestly not having a dig, its just my thoughts
 

vickster

Legendary Member
Rusty.
Everyone can find reasons why their exercise is acceptable.
You say you adhere to to the rules but then say you do 20 mile rides..... way over the one hour rule (unless you are very good).
Lots of nice people on here doing 50+ miles. I honestly have no problem with that as I cannot judge.......we did a 2 hour walk yesterday. I am honestly not having a dig, its just my thoughts
And yet you walked for 2?:scratch:
 
Rusty.
Everyone can find reasons why their exercise is acceptable.
You say you adhere to to the rules but then say you do 20 mile rides..... way over the one hour rule (unless you are very good).
Lots of nice people on here doing 50+ miles. I honestly have no problem with that as I cannot judge.......we did a 2 hour walk yesterday. I am honestly not having a dig, its just my thoughts

There is no one hour rule. This has been shown many, many times but still people refer to it. :banghead: I will adhere to it when it becomes a rule, or even shorter times if they become a rule.

Why is a two hour walk more acceptable than a 90 minute bike ride?
 
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roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
OK, so once again I'll pay the police guidance on what is reasonable.

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"Long" walks are fine, including a lunch stop. Driving to your long walk is also reasonable.

A 20 mile ride from could not possibly be seen as outside this guidance.

There is no guidance on the length of exercise, only that exercise should be the primary purpose of leaving your lockdown.
 

pawl

Legendary Member
My father died a week ago from the virus. I thought I would give a rough description of his last week weeks.

Around the 1st day he was feeling a little run-down, with a percussive double-cough which he couldn't suppress.

In three days he was suffering pretty much the onset of a fairly bad bout of the flu. He had managed to cough less, but had sore throats, bad tummy trouble. His sense of taste was fading fast away.

By the 7th day he was pretty much floored. All google searching and emails stopped then. At night he was sweating blankets sodden. He had lost his appetite and couldn't swallow or drink enough calories. That lasted three nights.

We got excited because he hadn't had a super sweaty night. He even claimed he thought he could taste the coffee a bit better. At this point my mother improved, but dad worsened.

He had taken to controlling his breathing to suppress what he thought would be exhausting coughs. I suspect this was him having trouble breathing, but he believed he was managing his recovery. But all evidence suggests he was struggling more than he was letting on, reading his flamboyant writing, now a scrawl.

However he started to have cognitive difficulties due to a dropping spO2 level. He went to the Out of Hours on the 12th day.

We thought he was saved. He perked up immediately. But the virus was doing its thing, destroying his lungs initially.

Oxygen mask -> CPAP Machine -> Ventilator.

Following that was two weeks of decline, some improvement, some more decline.

Kidneys failed first, and dialysis was unreliable due to clotting and fluid issues. Then heart had problems due to fluids and electrolyte problems.

They got over most of that, but the damage didn't really come under control and he was lost to us on the 30th day, despite the best possible care.

He was flying about the place two weeks prior to getting sick, and he probably caught it trying to get the loo rolls everyone thought they were missing out on. A man who was utterly full of mischief, and fun - chasing his grandchildren on long walks over Christmas.

And what an education on grief.

I couldn't comfort my mum in person during her recovery. By the time I was able to visit, he was two days from death. If she had held his hand during his final moments which is a privilege she was offered having contracted it at the same time , she'd have had to see out two more weeks of quarantine without hugs and support she so much required. They sent the sad evidence on the NHS system, after 4 days of pictures of him looking great on a ventilator, but sadly he wasn't making the recovery we so desperately needed.

And as for the funeral - understated for such a loved and flamboyant man. His eldest son unable to attend from overseas. Me managing the affairs as best I can.

I think this is the longest I have been without crying.

I never understood grief before. I have felt loss, I have understood other's pain when I have seen it in a very superficial way, I now see. I didn't know pain like this in my blessed life so far.

Please stay safe. This virus doesn't really care. I think it shaved at least ten good years and however many bad off that man's life.

Thank you to the NHS team in Lanarkshire for doing an incredible job, at this unreal time. God bless them all.



So sorry to hear of your loss. Please accept my condolences.
 
OK, so once again I'll pay the police guidance on what is reasonable.

View attachment 517489

"Long" walks are fine, including a lunch stop. Driving to your long walk is also reasonable.

A 20 mile ride from home could not possibly be seen as outside this guidance.

There is no guidance on the length of exercise, only that exercise should be the primary purpose of leaving your lockdown.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thank you for repeating the advice and the F A C T S.

I suspect that these will still conveniently be forgotten by many, because they prefer their own uninformed views on what is reasonable.
 
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