Contador fails drug test

[philipbh]

DEHP is a plasticizer found in IV bags.

Yet alternative transfusion bags are available (see Baxter Healthcare Infusion Products for example)

If teams are attempting to conceal the use of transfusions (blood, saline for rehydration etc) - they would be pretty foolish (IMO) to use bags that contain a plasticiser for which there is a known test

 

[Flying_Monkey]

Bernard Kohl is saying that it's impossible to win the TdF at current average speeds without drugs.

 

[yello]

The only thing that could possibly explain them is plasticisers from a saline rehydrating drip but I have no idea if that is plausible or not.

All forms of IV are prohibited now, rehydration included, but I guess Contador could attempt to kop a lesser charge (??) to explain the plasticisers!


That's interesting what you say there tigger, one can understand WADA's perspective and, at the same time but to a lesser extent imo, that of UCI.

They have very advanced tests now and AC was hunted down to make an example.

I wonder what kind of defence Contador might have in suggesting he has been treated unequally. That is, not every rider's samples were sent to this high tech lab and analysed to this degree. I wonder even if every rider's sample has been subjected to the plasticiser (I'm sick of typing that word btw!!) test? On such things, cases are thrown out of court.

 

[tigger]

So can the plasticer test results be used against Contador? This article suggests they can in conjunction with other +ve tests.

Looks like Bertie is hanged if so.

http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2010/10/httpimagesnymagcomimages2daily.html

 

[Smokin Joe]

There is a very good piece on The Comic's website by Lionel Birnie. I think it sums up the whole sorry business very aptly, Contador's explanation as to how the stuff got in his body is laughable - and has seriously upset the Spanish meat industry.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...he-beef-excuse-and-the-traces-of-plastic.html

 

[Crackle]

There is a very good piece on The Comic's website by Lionel Birnie. I think it sums up the whole sorry business very aptly, Contador's explanation as to how the stuff got in his body is laughable - and has seriously upset the Spanish meat industry.

http://www.cyclingwe...of-plastic.html

His excuse is akin to 'the dog ate my homework'

 

[rich p]

There is a very good piece on The Comic's website by Lionel Birnie. I think it sums up the whole sorry business very aptly, Contador's explanation as to how the stuff got in his body is laughable - and has seriously upset the Spanish meat industry.

http://www.cyclingwe...of-plastic.html

A very nicely understated piece of writing.

 

[Tim Bennet.]

It is a good article and mirrors my previous assertion that the clenbutorol trace was transferred with a transfusion of his own blood taken after his winter training where he was using the drug. The 'lab' he used to check it was clean clearly didn't have the ability to check for levels as small as the Koln one.

I also identify with the author's frustration with so many riders inability to say categorically that they are clean and oppose the use of drugs:

My colleague Edward Pickering asked (Contador) an unequivocal question that demanded an unequivocal answer.


"Can you assure us that you've never taken any banned performance-enhancing products, nor used any banned methods, and can you take this opportunity to make a strong statement for clean cycling?"


Contador replied: "I'm available 365 days a year, which is something I accept with good grace for the sport I love. I will continue to have this attitude."

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Does Lance Armstrong run master classes in this sort of double speak? All his prodigies seem to have his knack of fending off the simple "Do you cheat?" question with their own variation of his classic "I am the most tested athlete on the planet" or "I have never failed a drugs test", etc.

 

[User169]

Newspaper this morning appeared to suggest that the steak may have been vacuumed packed; a possible source of plasticizers?

(Apologies if this has already been shot down)

 

[Smokin Joe]

Newspaper this morning appeared to suggest that the steak may have been vacuumed packed; a possible source of plasticizers?

(Apologies if this has already been shot down)

I'd suggest we have finally reached the bottom of the barrel

 

[philipbh]

I'd suggest we have finally reached the bottom of the barrel

But we haven't had Cellular Resistance to Insulin ( a pre cursor to Type II Diabetes) yet!

 

[rich p]

You lot should take a long hard look at yourselves and what you're doing to poor ole old Contador - I've just read that this saga is making him tired.

What drug do you think might help him overcome this?

 

[John the Monkey]

Newspaper this morning appeared to suggest that the steak may have been vacuumed packed; a possible source of plasticizers?

With Del's comments on the study referenced above in mind, the authors contend that profiles of test subjects exposed to plasticisers via mehtods other than IV show a different profile to those exposed via IV. Ingestion would be different to transfusion, in other words.

 

[rich p]

The developer of of the plasticiser test has spoken

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/seg...sticizer-levels-are-indicative-of-transfusion

 

[yello]

From the above article...

"Nobody has officially notified us that it has been used," Segura confirms. "I don't understand how it can be that they haven't been in contact with the people who developed the test, especially as it is being used in such high-profile case."

An avenue for a technical defence perhaps? Or request for a re-test?