Cashless society......problem for many.

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Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
There'll be some who will only use use one seperate handset for such transactions. Similar to cards kept for similar reasons.
Only people with absolutely no understanding of them at all.

The handset makes no difference whatsoever, it is the card(s) you have associated with it that matters.
 

Alex321

Guru
Location
South Wales
These places should not be used, if no one books, then they'll soon stop this nonsense, or cease trading, it's entirely in their hands, we are all sleepwalking into this stupidity, had this in Bridlington last weekend, park & ride ticket machine wouldn't accept cards, so they all had queues a mile long with people scratting for change, ended up having to download an app to pay

Why "should" they not be used.

It isn't "nonsense", many people actually prefer to pay that way, and so long as they get sufficient bookings, they will continue.
 

kynikos

Veteran
Location
Elmet
We still use cash for eggs, fruit and veg from people's roadside stalls outside their homes. Plus we sell fruit from our two plum trees in season on a trestle table and paid with coins through our letterbox.
Simples... give your plums away for free and get your suppliers to do the same. problem solved ^_^
 
Don't get caught without ready cash in sticky situations.

This happened earlier this week - from the BBC:
"The Taliban were at the gates of the city - Kabul had fallen.
Suddenly, everyone was rushing to get on a plane. Ms Barakzai's flight to Turkey was cancelled. She quickly found another flight and tried to buy a ticket, but the airline would not accept her credit card. Cash only. She only had US$100 (£73) on her, not enough for new tickets."
 
Don't get caught without ready cash in sticky situations.

This happened earlier this week - from the BBC:
"The Taliban were at the gates of the city - Kabul had fallen.
Suddenly, everyone was rushing to get on a plane. Ms Barakzai's flight to Turkey was cancelled. She quickly found another flight and tried to buy a ticket, but the airline would not accept her credit card. Cash only. She only had US$100 (£73) on her, not enough for new tickets."
Wise words for the next time I try to board the number 16 bus home from town ^_^
 

DRM

Guru
Location
West Yorks
Why "should" they not be used.

It isn't "nonsense", many people actually prefer to pay that way, and so long as they get sufficient bookings, they will continue.
Because it's putting people out of work, thats why, had exactly this trying to pay a cheque into our bank, local branch only opened between 9:00 & 15:00, and was closed on Saturdays, they used to have a late start/late finish one day per week and be open till about 16:30 usually as well as Saturday 9:00 to 13:00, all part of a cunning plan to close branches, which they did as nobody goes in now, obvious when you open when people are at work, and close before they finish work, so we had to go into Leeds on Saturday morning, pay for parking, and stand in a queue while a spotty teenager suggests we pay it in via a machine, he didn't get it when I said no, I want to see to a human, having to explain that, that machine will do you, and every one else in here out of a job, so now our local branch has gone, as well as other bank brands around the locality, as for other things, theatres, museums, cinemas etc, how on earth do all the elderly who don't have smart phones/pc's etc book, therefore they deserve to go under, cash is legal tender, it's all a part of tracking where we go, and what we do and I'm not comfortable with that.
 
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nickyboy

Norven Mankey
Because it's putting people out of work, thats why, had exactly this trying to pay a cheque into our bank, local branch only opened between 9:00 & 15:00, and was closed on Saturdays, they used to have a late start/late finish one day per week and be open till about 16:30 usually as well as Saturday 9:00 to 13:00, all part of a cunning plan to close branches, which they did as nobody goes in now, obvious when you open when people are at work, and close before they finish work, so we had to go into Leeds on Saturday morning, pay for parking, and stand in a queue while a spotty teenager suggests we pay it in via a machine, he didn't get it when I said no, I want to see to a human, having to explain that, that machine will do you, and every one else in here out of a job, so now our local branch has gone, as well as other bank brands around the locality, as for other things, theatres, museums, cinemas etc, how on earth do all the elderly who don't have smart phones/pc's etc book, therefore they deserve to go under, cash is legal tender, it's all a part of tracking where we go, and what we do and I'm not comfortable with that.
"Putting people out of work" is a weak argument

Were that the issue, we would all be too busy making horseshoes, lighting the whale oil lamps and hand scything the fields to worry about cash

Like it or not, we are in a rapid transition to a cashless society and you can either get onboard or not but as time goes on cash, cheques etc will become more and more difficult to transact with. It is inexorable.

Post offices will fill the need for the diminishing numbers of people who can't or won't go cashless. But the true costs of these cash transactions will be passed onto the consumer. Handling cash is an expensive business with the person conducting the transaction, the insurance, the banking of cash, the security risk etc

Btw, my heart sinks if someone gives me a cheque. The real cost of my time to take it to a bank and deposit it is ridiculous. Real time tf via app pls!!
 
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DRM

Guru
Location
West Yorks
"Putting people out of work" is a weak argument

Were that the issue, we would all be too busy making horseshoes, lighting the whale oil lamps and hand scything the fields to worry about cash

Like it or not, we are in a rapid transition to a cashless society and you can either get onboard or not but as time goes on cash, cheques etc will become more and more difficult to transact with. It is inexorable.

Post offices will fill the need for the diminishing numbers of people who can't or won't go cashless. But the true costs of these cash transactions will be passed onto the consumer. Handling cash is an expensive business with the person conducting the transaction, the insurance, the banking of cash, the security risk etc
So all the closed banks in towns haven't put people out of work? it's not a weak argument, workers pay tax & NI into the system, people on jobseekers take money out of the system, the more people displaced, the more money comes out of the pot, and no we wouldn't be doing all those jobs you propose, we are being tracked by all this nonsense and we are sleep walking our way into this.
And just a point of note, horse shoes are now pre made in a variety of sizes and the farrier adjusts the closest size to fit the horses hoof, he/she will make a set of shoes from scratch, but you need deep pockets to pay for it.
 
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nickyboy

Norven Mankey
So all the closed banks in towns haven't put people out of work? it's not a weak argument, workers pay tax & NI into the system, people on jobseekers take money out of the system, the more people displaced, the more money comes out of the pot, and no we wouldn't be doing all those jobs you propose, we are being tracked by all this nonsense and we are sleep walking our way into this.
And just a point of note, horse shoes are now pre made in a variety of sizes and the farrier adjusts the closest size to fit the horses hoof, he/she will make a set of shoes from scratch, but you need deep pockets to pay for it.
My point is that jobs disappearing and appearing is part of the normal process
Many of us are doing jobs that didn't exist 50 years ago and children today will do jobs that don't exist now. Equally, jobs that exist now will disappear.
I agree it's tough if you're a counter clerk in a small bank branch that closes. But this process of old tech jobs disappearing and new tech jobs appearing has been going on forever.
If the act of going cashless wasn't so attractive to the majority then all those banks and all those employees would still exist. But they don't. Because it is so attractive to so many
 
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