Bike lock advice

[Big Nick]

How would then know it is stolen? I think the other bikes would be nicked first as they are unlocked visible and at the front of the pub. You are assuming I never lock my bike up. I always lock it up at other pubs and in town. Your are also assuming my bike looks expensive it doesn't it is a Thorn Rohloff they don't look expensive.

Errr....by asking questions of the rider? The most obvious one being with your bike is asking them what make it is, how many gears does it have, is there any damage/marks to it? I think most genuine owners would know the answer to these questions whereas a thief wouldn't ?

As for locking it up I'm not assuming anything, you didn't say it was?

To be honest that makes your decision not to lock it at that pub when you lock it elsewhere even more curious?

As for it not looking expensive, many that don't look expensive are nicked and lobbed into the back of scrap wagons and weighed in

As I said initially 'fair play' its your bike but the carry on if its nicked is a lot more hassle in my view

 

[vickster]

The OP is looking for advice on looking a bike in a built up area not a rural pub garden

 

[Big Nick]

I think the thing with the Police is the response time, if you see someone hop on your bike and pedal hell for leather out of the pub yard, are you fast enough to catch them on foot even if its only a few seconds head start. (seen it happen in football stadia, Joe Scrote is brazen these days - your choice but it does sound complacent to a townie) & how do you find peeing in a bottle in a bar & ignoring pals so you never take your eyes off it.

Exact same thing was on a CCTV clip released by my local police, guy on a £2k mountain bike pulled up at a rural cafe in a remote tiny village and left it unlocked while he popped in for tea and cake

Two minutes later cue dodgy looking van pulling up, passenger looks, then looks again and then jumps out runs to the bike, gets on and pedals off at speed with the owner and several cafe customers several seconds behind running after him for him never to be caught

I always lock my bike, even a crappy cheapo cafe lock will do the job of delaying a thief which will give you a fighting chance of getting back to it before it's gone

 

[Big Nick]

The OP is looking for advice on looking a bike in a built up area not a rural pub garden

#brand started it !!!!

 

[ChrisJN]

Thanks for the advice all. I think my Abus Bordo 6000 is a decent lock, but I might buy a dedicated D-lock as well after reading these comments, and pair them up for maximum security . One around the front wheel and frame and one around the back wheel and frame, and I can take the seat with me into work.

 

[shouldbeinbed]

The OP is looking for advice on looking a bike in a built up area not a rural pub garden

you're right, sorry mum

OP the rule of thumb (bit naff IMO) is 10% of the bike price on the lock. I have a Magnum gold standard armoured cable one that is hefty and looks it, that I use on all of them, with a couple of bikes the lock is more valuable than what it is securing. I like it because it enables me to use different places and a wider range of things to secure to than a relative narrow U lock, so my bike will never catch the eye of someone looking for patterns, e.g. railway stations where you invariably see the same bikes in the same places every weekday.
Same outside some shops in my local town, I'm just a bike geek but its easy to spot the creature's of habits bikes same place every time they're in work (I guess that how my son has had a couple of mine nicked!).
There is one with quite a nice MTB, they do pretty regular shop hours and seem to have one Saturday off a month. I'd suggest you think of where you park as part of your security routine too, have a few different and non linear parking places to vary your routine, even if it means a wee bit of a walk occasionally.

If you can't afford expensive, your second best option is a chunk of chain and a good padlock from B&Q etc but generally (tho I'm not recommending it) something that looks the part will be enough to deter 99+% of scrotes. They're invariably lazy opportunists, if it looks too hard to do or will draw them some attention they'll move on to a softer target. The other 1% will have your bike even if you buried it axle deep in concrete and locked it to a hungry lion.

edit: for a touch more clarity

 

[brand]

Errr....by asking questions of the rider? The most obvious one being with your bike is asking them what make it is, how many gears does it have, is there any damage/marks to it? I think most genuine owners would know the answer to these questions whereas a thief wouldn't ?

As for locking it up I'm not assuming anything, you didn't say it was?

To be honest that makes your decision not to lock it at that pub when you lock it elsewhere even more curious?

As for it not looking expensive, many that don't look expensive are nicked and lobbed into the back of scrap wagons and weighed in

As I said initially 'fair play' its your bike but the carry on if its nicked is a lot more hassle in my view

. Errr Again why would the police assume it is stolen for what reason would they stop him/her. Do you get stopped all the time and get asked those questions... that was a rhetorical question you don't.

"As for locking it up I'm not assuming anything, you didn't say it was?

To be honest that makes your decision not to lock it at that pub when you lock it elsewhere even more curious?"

Derhh As stated
" When I go the pub in the village there are bikes all over the place left unlocked for weeks. I leave the bike in the yard in the back of the pub. There is often people grooming horses there, the landlady has the kitchen door open most of the time and can see it through the door. She pass it regularly to fetch food from the freezer and veg from the store. I can see it from the bar. I don't bother locking it!!!!"
One pubs has much less risk because of where I put the bike. Obviously. See above.

 

[brand]

"It annoys me when people make it easy for thieves"
Why would you think I should care what you think... bit pretentious of you
"if they could only be arsed"
So I am bone idol? What rural area do you live in that makes you an expert on where I live?

 

[summerdays]

Did the same but they nicked the front wheel! The bike was a pile of ****e. So you can guess what the wheel was worth!

Ok so I didn't say that I also have locking skewers too. Front wheels are cheaper and less faff to replace.

 

[brand]

The OP is looking for advice on looking a bike in a built up area not a rural pub garden

And I gave advise on locking up a bike in an urban area based on my experience. Lots of advice. Read my post fully.

 

[brand]

Ok so I didn't say that I also have locking skewers too. Front wheels are cheaper and less faff to replace.

Never said you did or didn't. I was merely relating my experience to losing a wheel. Nor was I even aware that you could get locking nuts. Go for the lock your front wheel to your back wheel or vice versa. Good idea.

 

[fossyant]

The Bordo 6000 is a good lock, but mainly as a secondary lock. I use one myself to secure my front wheel, but it is used with a New York FAGH d lock. Get a reasonable gold rated d lock to go along with the Bordo

 

[brand]

Anyone used the ones that lock on to your wheel rim.They appear to attach to your rim brake. Wondering what the weight is as well. I am not a weight weenie but I am always well loaded anyway especially when pulling a trailer. Time to try and reduce weight.

 

[fossyant]

Crap. You can still walk away with the bike

 

[brand]

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/green-living-blog/2010/sep/13/bike-thief-stolen-tips

Worth a read