Benefits of wearing a helmet

[Angelfishsolo]

This is why it is better to actually look at hospital figures. These are unequivocal and detailed. You can show causation and identify where the intervention of helmets would offer the greatest benefit.

Of course this method is unpopular with the pro-compulsionists as it invariably proves that the greatest benefit is with pedestrians, and that rather spolis a good campaign.

Try and get any pro-compulsionist to state why pedestrian head injuries should not be prevented and watch them squirm as they avoid answering

What is not taken into account are the accidents involving cyclists wearing helmets where hospital attention was not required.

I will not for one minute try and say that pedestrian head injuries should not be prevented. In fact councils can be sued if the pavements are a cause of a pedestrian injury in just the same way they can be if a pothole causes injury to a road user.

 

[david k]

You don't wear one walking. Is it because you don't mind hurting your head?

it is proven by you before on a similar thread that walking for an hour is safer than cycling for an hour, therefore i dont wear a helmet for walking as i am less likely to hit my head

 

[david k]

Weird, isn't it. I don't even wear one when I go up a ladder to clean the gutters or paint the gables of the house, but I wear one on my bike! I'm an irrational fool!

yes, for cleaning your gutters

 

[MrHappyCyclist]

yes, for cleaning your gutters

We live next to a load of big trees, so if I don't clean the gutters, the house starts to resemble Niagara falls whenever there is a rain storm.

 

[david k]

cut down the trees?

 

[Red Light]

What is not taken into account are the accidents involving cyclists wearing helmets where hospital attention was not required.

But they are, as I have explained to you before, by looking at situations where helmet wearing went up to see if there is any reduction in "hospital attentions" because the new wearers are now protected.

 

[Red Light]

it is proven by you before on a similar thread that walking for an hour is safer than cycling for an hour, therefore i dont wear a helmet for walking as i am less likely to hit my head

It'll still hurt if you do hit it though. Do you not mind hurting your head?

 

[david k]

It'll still hurt if you do hit it though. Do you not mind hurting your head?

my decisions are based on balance and probability, increased probability and potential harm leads me to consider a helmet beneficial when cycling. As the balance is less when walking i dont

do you mind my decision

 

[david k]

But they are, as I have explained to you before, by looking at situations where helmet wearing went up to see if there is any reduction in "hospital attentions" because the new wearers are now protected.

how do you know whether there has been an increase in cycling or not when looking at said data?

 

[Angelfishsolo]

But they are, as I have explained to you before, by looking at situations where helmet wearing went up to see if there is any reduction in "hospital attentions" because the new wearers are now protected.

How many other contributing factors were considered in the lack of hospital admittance. Better bikes, weather conditions, cycle training. Also I was previously told that these incidents would be discounted as they would not result in head injury anyway!!!

 

[david k]

How many other contributing factors were considered in the lack of hospital admittance. Better bikes, weather conditions, cycle training. Also I was previously told that these incidents would be discounted as they would not result in head injury anyway!!!

what doesnt suit is ignored

 

[Mad at urage]

what doesnt suit is ignored

No need to tell us how you construct your arguments David, we've noticed already.

Have you read anything of the link provided?

 

[david k]

No need to tell us how you construct your arguments David, we've noticed already.

Have you read anything of the link provided?

yeh read it, posted many threads since, as said before it hasnt convinced me not to wear a helmet, carry on if you wish, ill just keep poting it until you get it

 

[david k]

No need to tell us how you construct your arguments David, we've noticed already.

Have you read anything of the link provided?

you working very hard to get me to stop wearing a helmet? if this isnt your intention what are you trying to prove exactly?

 

[Dan B]

my decisions are based on balance and probability, increased probability and potential harm leads me to consider a helmet beneficial when cycling. As the balance is less when walking i dont

do you mind my decision

Not at all, but it does seem kind of arbitrary, given that the risk per mile is greater when walking. For journeys up to two miles or so I might decide to cycle or to walk depending on how I feel that day or on the availability of bike parking or something: if I had your risk tolerance and were making a decision based on "balance and probability", I should by rights wear a helmet for any walking trip that I might on another day make by bike.


I guess the difference is between "cycling for fun" (where you do it for x hours and wouldn't otherwise make the journey at all) and "cycling to get somewhere" (where you do it for x miles and would otherwise have to make the journey some other way). Anyone who enjoys utility cycling, I suppose you have to make your own rules up