Armstrong charged and banned

[albion]

""Miraculously, USADA has arranged for the suspensions to begin at the start at the end of the season so that they are able to race both the Tour de France and the Vuelta a Espana," the article states."

I don't see no miracles

 

[Crackle]

Hincapie, Leipheimer, Vande Velde and Vaughters to give evidence according to Cyclng News.

The interesting one there is Vaughters. He's been an outspoken supporter of the biological passport but depending on what he's got to say, it could cast a shadow on an awful lot of people, our very own Wiggins came to the fore under Vaughters management. I'll be watching his evidence closely.

 

[smutchin]

Dave "my body is a temple" Zabriskie too...

<resigned sigh>

d.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

The doping ban aspect of the story has been denied by Slipstream / Vaughters.

 

[smutchin]

The doping ban aspect of the story has been denied by Slipstream / Vaughters.

...at least with regard to members of Slipstream. Could be true of Hincapie and Leipheimer perhaps. That would be less of a surprise at least.

d.

 

[Paul_L]

Why a 6 month ban as opposed to a mandatory 2 year ban? Some form of plea bargain perhaps?

 

[smutchin]

BMC have made similar denials to Slipstream.

One for conspiracy theorists: apparently, Johan Bruyneel writes a column for De Telegraaf...

d.

 

[Jen Dvorak]

I was wondering how Horner made the Olympic team over the guys rolling over on LA. Starting to make sense now. Glad to see it. Come clean and be clean LA your final bell has finally rung.

 

[smutchin]

USADA responds to De Telegraaf article...
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...esses-can-lead-to-errors-or-intimidation.aspx

 

[Andrius.B]

I haven’t been following this sport much, but from what I have read, it seems that there are much more pro cyclists that use doping then everyone thinks.
If this all is true, then this would change my opinion about many things.
If these guys got away with doping for so long, then what makes you think that most of other pro cyclists are not using doping too? After all, there are some types of doping that are extra hard to find, and I too don't fully trust the doping tests. I am sure there are ways to get around it.
I wouldn't be surprised if 50% of all pro cyclists were doping users.

Any way, does anyone know of approximate performance/endurance increase in percentages of doing doping? 5%? 10%?

 

[Noodley]

I haven’t been following this sport much, but from what I have read, it seems that there are much more pro cyclists that use doping then everyone thinks.
If this all is true, then this would change my opinion about many things.
If these guys got away with doping for so long, then what makes you think that most of other pro cyclists are not using doping too? After all, there are some types of doping that are extra hard to find, and I too don't fully trust the doping tests. I am sure there are ways to get around it.
I wouldn't be surprised if 50% of all pro cyclists were doping users.

Any way, does anyone know of approximate performance/endurance increase in percentages of doing doping? 5%? 10%?

I would suggest doing a google search.

 

[smutchin]

I haven’t been following this sport much...

Really?

d.

 

[Andrius.B]

I would suggest doing a google search.

I did, but the google results can be very messy and confusing at times.
Didn't get any specific info. That's why I asked. Why should I spend doing 3 hour research to find the info I want, if I can ask it here, and someone who has done the research could take the 10 seconds to post the info he knows.

 

[Andrius.B]

Really?

d.

No.

 

[yello]

It depends on the dope and the doper.

EPO, for instance, works better in some physiologies than in others. However, generally speaking, and from memory and bearing in mind it's not my subject, the gains are less than maybe 5% as I recall. Not massive but enough to make a difference.