One hopes, we've held our breath before though.
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One hopes, we've held our breath before though.
Chuffy
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Granted, but before we tended to have a 'whole sport' hoo-hah (1968 - the Tour of Health, 1999 - the Tour of Renewal etc). We'd never (so far as I can tell) had a team that hung itself so strongly on an anti-doping hook. IIRC some team bosses (Koechli, Legeay) were stringently anti-doping (you only have to look at the JV bee-sting incident to see how Legeay regarded dodgy back-dated TUEs) but that was never their team's main selling point. JV's balls are on the line with Garmin in a way that doesn't apply to other teams.
Noodley
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If I could "like" a post more than once I would have "liked" this one lots.
Chuffy
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Ta. There are some good people (and lots of useful info) in the Clinic, but there are also a whole load of, and apologies if this is a bit too technical, 'farking morons'.
I hadn't read the bee sting incident until now. Link here to an interview if anyone wants it.
Legeay is strongly anti-doping as well but yeah, Vaughters team's history and their associations and the fact that it's still very current and happening, gives an edge to everything he might have to say; windows on a soul we all want to see.
smutchin
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Just read on twitter that Lance has filed for an injunction to halt the USADA's case because it's unconstitutional.
Way to go, Tex - that should silence the critics and get everyone on your side.
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Way to go, Tex - that should silence the critics and get everyone on your side.
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Flying_Monkey
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And with an unerring sense of timing my Canadian Triathlon magazine comes through the door with Lance on the front cover and asking how he will transform triathlon. Ooops.
It's fascinating that anyone thinks that's a result he cares about. It seems fairly clear he's not a man who cares what people think! As long as he can still say 'never failed a test' and isn't banned, he'll try any route available!
Flying_Monkey
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I think he does care, because if he gets banned he won't be able to be the best Ironman Triathlete in the world, which is his current goal. He doesn't like being prevented from winning.
Sorry, I meant care about what other people think. He's not interested in getting critics on his side, he's interested in competing and being able to say he's never been banned or failed a test.
Flying_Monkey
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True.
Andrew_P
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I agree with this, also I think if true the plea bargained confessions also are not hopeful of a clear black and white outcome. If found guilty I do hope it will without any doubt. and some scientific evidence is produced
Regarding performance enhancing I am not clued up on EPO, but have a lot of laymans knowledge of Steroids. It is not clear to me how often Pro's are tested out of season or when "injured". But I would say you could quite easily improve your strength by 25-30% while on a course and maybe retain 50% of that post if you continue to train at the same level. In Athletics one that was caught was clearly transformed after being injured for a long period, long before testing positive.
Flying_Monkey
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Why should Armstrong be treated any differently from any other athlete suspected of doping and in this case, a conspiracy also to conceal doping?
There was the diversionary tactics via spurious court cases from Landis and Hamilton. They lost and so will Armstrong. The US courts have already recognised USADA's 'jurisdiction' over internal sports doping matters.
just jim
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To quote a self- confident someone on a particular thread on a certain cycling forum (currently running in at 419 pages)
"USADA have him by the ball."
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