Are we being forced to go electric?

[CXRAndy]

Tesla has very accurate range figure. If you stick in the parameters of normal driving. Do 90mph and it all changes.

However they have an accurate energy graph to show how much lower or higher than predicted range if you continue with your driving style

 

[mjr]

And aero / speed. The aero and speed make a big difference.

But aerodynamics / speed is not new to EVs, is it?

 

[CXRAndy]

 

[fossyant]

Doesnt really dent their appeal overall. Selling like hotcakes

Leased like hot cakes

 

[icowden]

But aerodynamics / speed is not new to EVs, is it?

It's not, but it is one key mechanism that manufacturers have used to improve range when designing EVs. For ICE cars it's never been a huge consideration.

 

[Rusty Nails]

It's not, but it is one key mechanism that manufacturers have used to improve range when designing EVs. For ICE cars it's never been a huge consideration.

As EVs become more popular and people get used to the importance of aerodynamics we will all not mind driving around in variations of the basic mouse design.

 

[icowden]

As EVs become more popular and people get used to the importance of aerodynamics we will all not mind driving around in variations of the basic mouse design.

I think what will actually happen is that as battery tech improves with greater storage, smaller volume and mass etc, is that the importance of aero efficiency will drop and we will see different designs. There are some interesting designs out there.

https://www.aehra.com/the-suv

 

[Rusty Nails]

I think what will actually happen is that as battery tech improves with greater storage, smaller volume and mass etc, is that the importance of aero efficiency will drop and we will see different designs. There are some interesting designs out there.

https://www.aehra.com/the-suv

I hope so as I have always liked the two box designs for cars.

My last two cars were Yetis, not exactly aerodynamic.

 

[Milzy]

My ice is only one litre with a turbo strapped to it. Low emissions, it’s not like these SUV’s. I can sleep easy knowing I haven’t got an EV that kids helped make mining crap in sandles for 1 pence a 12 hour shift. Then the large EV will have to be recycled somehow in 10 years.

 

[cougie uk]

My ice is only one litre with a turbo strapped to it. Low emissions, it’s not like these SUV’s. I can sleep easy knowing I haven’t got an EV that kids helped make mining crap in sandles for 1 pence a 12 hour shift. Then the large EV will have to be recycled somehow in 10 years.

EVs aren't getting scrapped in ten years unless they've been written off.

 

[Milzy]

EVs aren't getting scrapped in ten years unless they've been written off.

The cells will lose charge and will need to be replaced just like peoples IPhone batteries.

 

[icowden]

The cells will lose charge and will need to be replaced just like peoples IPhone batteries.

No they won't.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/...er forum user with a,really an issue for them.

Another forum user with a 2012 Tesla Model S shared a different story. After crossing the 220,000-mile mark (354,000 km), his battery capacity has decreased to 217 miles (349 km). This represents a more significant 18% degradation, although this is not really an issue for them. After all, they kind of expected this to happen after so many miles. Their battery still has 82% capacity left, which is a good value after ten years. Most users mentioned battery degradations between 6% and 13% for similar use-case scenarios, so this must’ve been an exception.

So 18% loss after 220 thousand miles over 10 years. Another user reported 6% over nine years (100,000 miles).

 

[MrGrumpy]

I just just feel lucky to have experienced the heyday of ICE vehicles, we will have this again.

My current BMW 330d is now probably the last of the proper 6 cylinder BMW’s. although it has an infotainment screen, it still has analogue gauges and an old fashioned handbrake. Perhaps I’m just a bit of a dinosaur.

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Nowt wrong with old fashioned ! To be honest I’d have all that back in. A heart beat . New stuff is sh…t and these parking brakes are just expensive bills at some point ! I’ve been there !

 

[icowden]

Nowt wrong with old fashioned !

The people currently living in the parts of Europe that are on fire may beg to differ..

 

[lazybloke]

It's not, but it is one key mechanism that manufacturers have used to improve range when designing EVs. For ICE cars it's never been a huge consideration.

One of the stranger claims I've seen on this thread.
Because for years , cars have achieved their best mpg at A road speeds. This is only possible with considerable attention to aerodynamics.


Did I imagine all those glossy ads about wind tunnels and drag coefficient?