Are we being forced to go electric?

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It's obvious you haven't driven an EV the likes of a Tesla or Porsche, BMW M50 I4. They handle extremely well, sure footed, no body roll and go like a rocket

I think thats it. The eTron is the first EV i have driven. Got to manchester and back today on motorways, windy lanes etc and it was 'functional' nuff said.
 

Buck

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Nice car our friend has the M50 version. A bit lacking in range is it's only downside compared to it rivals

Yes the M50 seems to sacrifice range for the dual motor / performance. The i4 M Sport is the pic of the bunch for me (with better range and imo as much usable power)
 

mikeIow

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Have to say we *love* our Hyundai Kona EV. Almost 45k miles in the past 4 years.
3 levels of regen - I like the strongest most, & we are still on original pads and discs - the regen does 95% of the braking!

The eTron has something of a reputation for being fairly decent quality, comfy, but terrible on 'economy'....to be fair, most of the 'up-market' brands are similar.
 
What are motorcycle fans going to do post 2030?

Most drive them for the noise and fun of it, I cannot see electric bikes being too popular??🤔🤔

I would imagine the same as everyone else who has no interest in electric vehicles, don't buy anything new.

My little 'fleet ' consists of a '62 Lambretta, motorcycles dating between '72 and '97 and a 1984 VW camper running on LPG so I'm just hoping I'll be able to continue run them for as long as I'm able but who knows?
 
Much cheaper to buy her a bicycle (even an electric one), not to mention the astronomical costs of motor insurance for new, young drivers, added benefit of one less car on already crowded Surrey/London roads :whistle:

He's got the 'dough ' may as let the kids have it now as they'll be hit with inheritance tax otherwise.
 
Talking of new/young drivers, be interesting to know what the insurance costs are like for an EV with much faster 0-60 acceleration than the typical cars new drivers have (eg a 1.0l city car)? Replacement Value of the car aside

My Daughter's insurance was £1800 in the first yr of passing her test on a 2k 2009 Beetle and she was 19 (2yrs ago) she also had 1 yrs ncb as she'd had the car for over a year during Covid and had her own learner insurance, which by the way is pretty cheap as she always needed me to be in with her. This is TPTF not comp.
 

vickster

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My Daughter's insurance was £1800 in the first yr of passing her test on a 2k 2009 Beetle and she was 19 (2yrs ago) she also had 1 yrs ncb as she'd had the car for over a year during Covid and had her own learner insurance, which by the way is pretty cheap as she always needed me to be in with her. This is TPTF not comp.

The question was how much does it cost to insure a new driver on an EV though, many cost £20k to buy for starters so fully comp would be advisable I should have thought
 

mikeIow

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I doubt whether the fact it is a 2k/10k/20k vehicle makes a whole lot of difference for a new driver, tbh.

Insurance is cheap when learning, BECAUSE there is a qualified driver sat with you.
As soon as you pass the test and and drive solo, the cost is horrendous...especially for that first year.
Think ours were in the region of £1200-1600 for year one....in their old '05 Fiesta, value about £2k :wacko:
Second year dropped a lot - quite a bit less than 50% of the price.....but from then on, I believe it depends a lot more on the area, parking, etc.

DD had a theft claim 2 years ago: her premium went up this year, & no idea what will happen soon - she is moving to London, so I suspect she may sell the car! Up to her, luckily I have no involvement in her vehicle other than giving it a polish & checking the tyres when she visits - such a relief not to be managing the full fleet 🤣
 
The question was how much does it cost to insure a new driver on an EV though, many cost £20k to buy for starters so fully comp would be advisable I should have thought

I guess there may be some on here willing to buy an expensive electric car for their 17 yr old so perhaps they can answer your question more accurately.
 
I doubt whether the fact it is a 2k/10k/20k vehicle makes a whole lot of difference for a new driver, tbh.

Insurance is cheap when learning, BECAUSE there is a qualified driver sat with you.
As soon as you pass the test and and drive solo, the cost is horrendous...especially for that first year.
Think ours were in the region of £1200-1600 for year one....in their old '05 Fiesta, value about £2k :wacko:
Second year dropped a lot - quite a bit less than 50% of the price.....but from then on, I believe it depends a lot more on the area, parking, etc.

DD had a theft claim 2 years ago: her premium went up this year, & no idea what will happen soon - she is moving to London, so I suspect she may sell the car! Up to her, luckily I have no involvement in her vehicles other than giving it a polish & checking the tyres when she visits - such a relief not to be managing the full fleet 🤣

Unfortunately she's looking for specifically electric vehicles so like me, your experience of young drivers Insurance is of no value.
 

CXRAndy

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There is no rhyme or reason why certain cars are more costly to insure than others.

My personal car is far more expensive than my wife's car, we are both insured to drive both.

However my insurance is far lower than hers, yet my car is more powerful and costly. Go figure. 🤔
 

Buck

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It’s a complex algorithm based on the basics of the car (body style / power etc) but then actual cost of repairs, claims per ‘000s and incidents/accidents/theft.

Add to this the individual insurance companies appetite for risk for that sector, declared primary driver gender, age, personal history, post code etc and then they come up with a magic figure that bamboozles us !!
 
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