Are we being forced to go electric?

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Alex321

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What, like those who need an affordable functional vehicle that will accommodate a wheelchair without having to dismantle it, and wish to make reasonably long journeys without stopping for 20 minutes every hundred miles or so.

What makes you think that is something EVs are unlikely to address?

You are looking at something along the lines of a Berlingo or Doblo or similar. I would expect very similar EVs to be around soon. And very few of those being produced now have such a limited range as 100 miles.
 

icowden

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Why shouldn't they?
It's not always the driver who's mobility is impaired either.
No one is saying they shouldn't, just that it's pointless using an outlier to justify your viewpoint.
Yes there are many mobility impaired people. For the majority of them an EV is great - one pedal driving. For those needing wheelchairs and who can drive, the car can be fairly easily adapted to hand control only. FOr those needing storage for their wheelchairs, cars exist such as the e-berlingo with its 170ish mile range.

If you are a wheelchair user who regularly needs to travel long distances, you are an exception, not the rule. And yes, there may not be an EV that fits your use case *yet*.

It does not follow however that we should abandon EVs because there are:-
those who need an affordable functional vehicle that will accommodate a wheelchair without having to dismantle it, and wish to make reasonably long journeys without stopping for 20 minutes every hundred miles or so.
I would argue that this group of people is very *very* small.
 

vickster

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cars exist such as the e-berlingo with its 170ish mile range.

How much does that cost however if you buy one new or even used today - £20k, £30k, more? Today and not in 10 years time when it might have depreciated to affordable levels for people who aren't fortunate enough to get allowances, company cars, salary sacrifice lease deals?

Affordability is IMO the key issue currently with electric cars, not range for most
 

FishFright

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How much does that cost however if you buy one new or even used today - £20k, £30k, more? Today and not in 10 years time when it might have depreciated to affordable levels for people who aren't fortunate enough to get allowances, company cars, salary sacrifice lease deals?

Affordability is IMO the key issue currently with electric cars, not range for most

It's the "I can't afford one so no one else can" post. You must be well into double figures with that one.
 
How much does that cost however if you buy one new or even used today - £20k, £30k, more? Today and not in 10 years time when it might have depreciated to affordable levels for people who aren't fortunate enough to get allowances, company cars, salary sacrifice lease deals?

Affordability is IMO the key issue currently with electric cars, not range for most

Nobody's forcing anyone to go electric now though are they ?

As you say yourself - things will be different in 10 years time so what is the point of your argument ?

It'd be tiresome if I went on the Titanium bikes thread and complained about them all being more expensive then the BSO's in Tesco or wherever.
 

vickster

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Nobody's forcing anyone to go electric now though are they ?

As you say yourself - things will be different in 10 years time so what is the point of your argument ?

It'd be tiresome if I went on the Titanium bikes thread and complained about them all being more expensive then the BSO's in Tesco or wherever.

The eBerlingo was being suggested to @youngoldbloke - to have now not in 10 years time?
Maybe @youngoldbloke is happy to spend 30k on one tomorrow, if so, all good
 

icowden

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The eBerlingo was being suggested to @youngoldbloke - to have now not in 10 years time?
Maybe @youngoldbloke is happy to spend 30k on one tomorrow, if so, all good

It wasn't. I suggested that there are EVs out there that met his somewhat edge case criteria and also that for the vast majority of people there isn't a requirement to go hundreds of miles every day.

I didn't say they were affordable.
 
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