vickster
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Bargain!
Not showing on autotrader at those prices at least not in numbers or in the SE
Are we being forced to go electric?
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Bargain!
Not showing on autotrader at those prices at least not in numbers or in the SEAlex321
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Bargain!
Nope.
I took that from here https://www.moneyexpert.com/car-insurance/cheapest-electric-cars/
Didn't think to check that data.
You are right they are not that low, and they aren't even available new any more, even though that article was only from November.
vickster
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Even £15k is obscene for a tiny car to my mind.
ClichéGuevara
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I'd hazard a guess that those paying £5k for a bike, are more liable to be the ones buying the electric cars.
Alex321
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I suspect most of those complaining about £15K for a car are not the ones who will be paying £5K for a bike.
Some people are willing to pay £5K+ for a bike. Some are willing to pay £30K+ for a car. Those are more likely to be the same people.
Believe me, there are people in this thread that would pay upwards of 5k for a bike, but wouldn't pay 3k for a car…….
The whole thread is full of them, just my opinion
vickster
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I’m prepared to pay rather more relatively for a bike than a car. I like cycling, however I drive purely out of necessity and under sufferance! I have a perfectly good car for my needs, so have zero need to change to an electric one.
Last year I probably cycled more miles than I drove.
Never spent 3k on a bike or 15k on a car. No need frankly
Last year I probably cycled more miles than I drove.
Never spent 3k on a bike or 15k on a car. No need frankly
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"Transport for Wales has been tasked by the Welsh Government to lead a project to install rapid charging at a handful of strategic locations. The Transport for Wales project consists of £2 million funding and proposed concession agreements to facilitate the installation of rapid charging and key points in Wales’ transport network"
From the Welsh Government EV charging strategy paper. The money comes from the Senedd grants and the £2m covers the whole of Wales. It is great that Blaenau Gwent has installed eight public charging points, but they did not source all of the money and that eight points needs to be increased a hell of a lot to meet the needs of an area that population size and geography.
Let me try again in case you missed my reply to @KnittyNorah .
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They get a cut of the profit from charging for the electricity.
So the Taxpayer should be paying to facilitate the charging of privately owned vehicles as it will generate more revenue that can be used to fund services that the Taxpayer may use.
Councils like to make extra money. Sometimes it goes pear shaped but this looks like a good investment.
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classic33
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Why should I fund your electric vehicle usage?
If you had reached the end of the sentence, I answered the question.
However - the detailed version is that it is the same reason that you invest in any company. You expect a good financial return.
For example the revenue earned from the lamp post chargers could be used to fund solar projects within the area. These in turn generate revenue by supplying energy to National Grid and reducing the cost of electricity, thus reducing the need for Government subsidy, thus freeing up more money to pay Nurses or Firefighters or fix pot holes or build new cycle infrastructure.
classic33
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I had reached the end of your unedited post. The council provide the lampposts for the charging points, and the supply to the lamp posts comes via council spending. A private company then comes along, charges the council for using what the council installed. And the council is liable for the maintanence of the lamp posts.
It's why they had no hesitation in blocking six charging points off.
The return can't be that great. The last six on council owned property were closed off last year. At 79p per kWh* they should have been raking it in. Now behind a fence to a building site, where work was halted six months ago.
*The dearest in the local area, at the time of closure, going by the ZappApp map.
This is the skinny for Brighton from 2019:-
https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/fl.../brighton-reveals-lamp-post-charge-point-plan
So it seems that if a lamp post is in use 50% of the time and delivering 6kwh of electricity that's 72p per day or £262.80 for the year per lamp post so 52k per year revenue. In year 4 that becomes £208,000 per year. They are likely to get more money from the rapid taxi charging hubs.
So it has cost Brighton and Hove nothing, but they have a new source of revenue. Possibly they could have driven a harder bargain with Electric Blue and got a better cut. Electric Blue are responsible for maintaining the charging points, the council maintain the lampposts anyway. It would be interesting to know whether the council's share is linked to the cost of electricity or not.
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