Are we being forced to go electric?

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vickster

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That's why I said "most" and not "all". Those who live in flats or don't have off street parking do tend to live in areas with good public transport and where a car isn't a necessity. There will be an increase in on-street charging points - lamp posts have been one mooted solution.

Not necessarily and even so doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be able to have a car. As ever one rule for the middle aged and middle classed :rolleyes:
Many of the houses around here don’t have OSP, there aren’t enough lampposts for all the cars to be charged overnight :wacko:
You live in a built up area with public transport, in Walton…why do you need a car if others don’t? 🤷‍♀️
 
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CXRAndy

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Owning an EV will be different and a price to pay for zero tailpipe pollution.
 

icowden

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You live in a built up area with public transport, in Walton…why do you need a car if others don’t? 🤷‍♀️
It really isn't. The vast majority of houses in Walton have driveways. There are some blocks of flats where ev charging could easily be installed. And public transport here is pretty awful. The trains are good but there a very few busses to speak of. It would be next to impossible to make simple journeys to the supermarket etc.

I have lived in Kingston, Putney, Southfields, Wandsworth and never needed a car.
Not necessarily and even so doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be able to have a car. As ever one rule for the middle aged and middle classed :rolleyes:
No-one has said that they shouldn't own a car. What was said is that people don't need to own a car if they have good transport links, and as more chargers appear, those who cannot self charge from their house will also have solutions.
 

MrGrumpy

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Was in the local Honda dealer looking for Honda Jazz for my mother. Noticed their EV offering , a small city car £36k !!!! Even the salesman said who in their right mind would spend that . A new hybrid CRV was £4k cheaper !
 

FishFright

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So you believe there will be thousands and thousands of chargers available in supermarket car parks. cinema complexes, and not just the 2 or 3 you sometimes find currently? Thousands and thousands more, not just 10 or twenty, but hundreds, available at each motorway services? And even more thousands and thousands of on-street chargers. I do wonder what this brave new world will look like. A change of mindset will certainly be needed.

Obviously there will be , it's a huge investment opportunity.
 

SpokeyDokey

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Was in the local Honda dealer looking for Honda Jazz for my mother. Noticed their EV offering , a small city car £36k !!!! Even the salesman said who in their right mind would spend that . A new hybrid CRV was £4k cheaper !

Hideous little thing. That's the one with cameras not wing mirrors?

The local dealer in Kendal has a very smart looking HRV EV in a sort of combat green colour on display.
 

icowden

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Was in the local Honda dealer looking for Honda Jazz for my mother. Noticed their EV offering , a small city car £36k !!!! Even the salesman said who in their right mind would spend that . A new hybrid CRV was £4k cheaper !

It's certainly odd - in that the Honda e was £28k OTR (24k list price) in 2021. They seem to have put up their prices a lot for 2022.
They seem to be a bit clueless. You could have an ID3 for 11k less.

It's an odd looking thing. I rather liked a comment I saw in one review that compared the interior to a 1980s cctv control centre.
 
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I live in a village with no streetlights, some houses have no off-street parking, draping cables across pavements in the dark not a good idea. Cars really are a necessity. I suppose residents will have to drive to the nearest town to charge. I suspect there are many, many people in many places that will find at-home charging difficult if not impossible with current technology. There will also be an issue regarding chargers in conservation areas - I used to live in a conserved village which was mostly a single long terraced street, with street lighting fixed on the houses themselves, at eaves level. Many of those cottages had no rear access. Almost none-existent public transport.

You can get hi Viz ramps/mats to cover any trailing cables. It's not that difficult to manage.
Was in the local Honda dealer looking for Honda Jazz for my mother. Noticed their EV offering , a small city car £36k !!!! Even the salesman said who in their right mind would spend that . A new hybrid CRV was £4k cheaper !

Explains why I've only seen a few of them around.
Meanwhile just about every other car round there is an EV - just not Honda.
Plenty of far cheaper EVs.
 

jowwy

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WFH is going to cost people a bleedin fortune due to high energy costs !!

Still waiting on the self driving buses along the M8 up my way. Built the lane but never seen a bus yet ! We are a long way off seeing that up and down the country !

Working from home is way cheaper than travelling by car do to fuel costs……..even if you live 1 or 2 miles from work.

it costs me around 20p a day to work from home, but around £4.50 for me to drive to work, as i posted in the energy bills thread
 

MrGrumpy

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Explains why I've only seen a few of them around.
Meanwhile just about every other car round there is an EV - just not Honda.
Plenty of far cheaper EVs.

It was just an example and chatting to the salesman he was sceptical about EV take up on the scale planned. Considering the energy crisis we are in right now !

It’s funny I see EVs round my way as well but still the minority !
 
Working from home is way cheaper than travelling by car do to fuel costs……..even if you live 1 or 2 miles from work.

it costs me around 20p a day to work from home, but around £4.50 for me to drive to work, as i posted in the energy bills thread

I lived a mile away from work. Never drove. Walked or cycled.
WFH just cost me a fortune in biscuits...
 
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