Any Runners On Here??

[thecube]

250-300 miles is a joke, I mean that wouldn't take some runners too long to achieve. Especially with marathon training, people easily rack up over 50 miles a week and more. Although i've never got anyway near this mileage.

 

[Richard A Thackeray]

250-300 miles is a joke, I mean that wouldn't take some runners too long to achieve. Especially with marathon training, people easily rack up over 50 miles a week and more

I'm not training for anything specific at the moment, & the only races I have for the remainder of the year are fell-races (& ParkRuns), but I'm still averaging 155-160 miles a month

I do know that the shoes I'm wearing at the moment are jiggered, as they'll have covered circa 900 miles

 

[User169]

This is a decent article on when to replace shoes (although the final disclaimer isn't especially helpful!)..

http://www.mortonsfoot.com/articles/truthathleticshoes.pdf

 

[thecube]

This is a decent article on when to replace shoes (although the final disclaimer isn't especially helpful!)..

http://www.mortonsfoot.com/articles/truthathleticshoes.pdf

Interesting, but surely the amount of people running has increased hugely over recent years / decades? In turn, our reporting of injuries will be better. It seems to be almost an assumption that everybody that used to run years ago did so without problem. I always worry about the impartiallity of such reports, there always seems to be a vested interest to make an argument to or for expensive running shoes. I think it is a bit banal to imply that 1inch of sole can't really help cushion us from the impact of running. I mean the author should try running in decent running shoes and then replace them for a pair or standard (non runnign) shoes! I got shin splints from running home from the pub in my smart shoes one night!

 

[User169]

Interesting, but surely the amount of people running has increased hugely over recent years / decades? In turn, our reporting of injuries will be better. It seems to be almost an assumption that everybody that used to run years ago did so without problem. I always worry about the impartiallity of such reports, there always seems to be a vested interest to make an argument to or for expensive running shoes. I think it is a bit banal to imply that 1inch of sole can't really help cushion us from the impact of running. I mean the author should try running in decent running shoes and then replace them for a pair or standard (non runnign) shoes! I got shin splints from running home from the pub in my smart shoes one night!

I think he does deal with your last point. He's saying you need to have strong feet and to run in a more biomechanically correct way in order to run barefoot or with much less cushioning. However, years of walking and running in overcushioned shoes mean that for most people this isn't possible: weak feet, heel striking, over-striding etc.

On the rate of injury point, you may be correct that there aren't enough data, although there are some contemporary comparative studies. It does seem though that running speeds have dropped quite significantly. I ran in an event recently where the marathon was won in 2:34 and only three runners went below 3:00. I looked back attimes for the event in the mid-70s and something like 25 people ran under 2:30 (and this was with a smaller field).

 

[thecube]

I think he does deal with your last point. He's saying you need to have strong feet and to run in a more biomechanically correct way in order to run barefoot or with much less cushioning. However, years of walking and running in overcushioned shoes mean that for most people this isn't possible: weak feet, heel striking, over-striding etc.

On the rate of injury point, you may be correct that there aren't enough data, although there are some contemporary comparative studies. It does seem though that running speeds have dropped quite significantly. I ran in an event recently where the marathon was won in 2:34 and only three runners went below 3:00. I looked back attimes for the event in the mid-70s and something like 25 people ran under 2:30 (and this was with a smaller field).

But surely race winning times are quicker than the past? just look at the london Marathon. Not so sure about the average finish times, but it might be down to to the increased popularity of running over the past 20 to 30 years? Runners in the 1970-1980's were not so common, so maybe they were more dedicated and the concept of running for pleasure did not really catch on with the masses. But now there are more recreational runners leading to slower average race times. And if we are slower it might be linked to other factors such as lifestyle / diets etc. rather than the biomechanics of running. I guess we are not likely to find out what is best for us for some time yet, so i'll keep squandering my hard earnt cash on over priced trainers! I wish they wouldn't keep updating the models, it does seem like an excuse to charge more.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Lawks but I hate DOMS.

 

[User169]

I guess we are not likely to find out what is best for us for some time yet, so i'll keep squandering my hard earnt cash on over priced trainers! I wish they wouldn't keep updating the models, it does seem like an excuse to charge more.

Fair enough. If you find something that works, it's probably best to stick with it.

I'm happy with my Saucony Kinvaras. They're nice and light, neutral, 4mm heel to toe drop, but still have some cushioning. The only downside is that the upper is a bit flimsy.

 

[thecube]

Asics Nimbus for me, I try and buy the old versions to avoid payng too much, but not always possible. I did try some Saucony's but didn't get on with them. So once you find a pair that work you tend to stick with them. I do like cushioning. I have a pair of race shoes but have never raced in them! not sure it would make much difference and I like the reassurance of the chushioning.

 

[The Jogger]

I have started jogging again after a number of years due to knee problems. I bought a pair of trail shoes from Decathlon for £25 (I use to spend closer to £100 on shoes) but I did start using my custom made orthotics, the sort you put your feet in a mould and they are sent off to Canada to be made. So far so good, week 6 of the C25K. I ran a mile walked 3 mins and ran a mile, this morning.

 

[Monsieur Remings]

Managed around 126 km since breaking up from school on the 22nd July. Managed the half-distance twice this week and a speed session on the treadmill. Trying to aim for 1h 45' on the half and improve from there. The first time, back in April was 2h 14' and have narrowed that down to 1h 57', although I've been injured a few times.

Found a lovely off-road spot today too, a bit hilly...called Goblin Coombe!

 

[Strathlubnaig]

Looks good!!!

I ran this '1/2' in 2009, sadly to my shame, only once! (have never been able to get there for the others)

It's certainly the only race in Britain, & quite probably the World, to cross a tidal-bay

http://www.crossbay.org.uk/

it was my first half. & despite the 2 main river crossings, the Kent Channel was crotch-deep & over 100yards (well, the river enters the bay, whether the tide's in or out!)

This is a shorter but tidal fun five miler in Fife. http://www.blackrock5.org/

 

[Strathlubnaig]

There's a trainer recycling program in Toronto, so I will send all of mine there eventually. I use mine for a lot longer than is recommended by the manufacturers too. The current ones I've been using as my primary trainer since 2010, which is about 3 years longer than their supposed lifespan. I was looking at some Brooks PureFlow trainers recently that were recommended for me, and they reckon they last "250-300 miles." That would be three months. That is absurd.

Recycling trainers eh, when I was growing up down in Niagara we had a 'shoe tree' out on the Merritville highway, where people nailed their old sneakers, it got pretty busy.

 

[Flying_Monkey]

I've not been running enough recently, have been having off and on hamstring issues, and haven't been feeling very well or getting enough sleep, so it was no surprise that I was more than 2 and a half minutes slower that I would expect to run on a flat course in good weather in my 10k race today (41.32). 3rd in my age group and 8th overall, but it should have been 2nd and 5th... oh well, back to training and increased miles for the half I have to run early next month...

 

[Strathlubnaig]

After about 10 miles I get sharp pains under my toes, immediately behind the toe/foot joints, comes in waves, eases off, hits again etc, all I can do to finish a Half really, rest of me okay, just the under foot/ toe agony. Any ideas ?