Any good jokes ... ?

[subaqua]

somebody somewhere will always be offended by a joke . lifes too short

 

[swee'pea99]

somebody somewhere will always be offended by a joke . lifes too short

Well...yes, but...I suspect even many who would be broadly sympathetic with that position would still have reservations about jokes rooted in, say, racism, misogyny or homophobia, especially when aired in a 'fun & friendly' forum.

 

[subaqua]

Well...yes, but...I suspect even many who would be broadly sympathetic with that position would still have reservations about jokes rooted in, say, racism, misogyny or homophobia, especially when aired in a 'fun & friendly' forum.

i see religion is fair game then...........

 

[swee'pea99]

i see religion is fair game then...........

Absolutely. Also foodstuffs and cleaning products.

 

[raleighnut]

Absolutely. Also foodstuffs and cleaning products.

So any jokes featuring Nuns, Marrows and Olive oil then eh?

 

[martint235]

Jokes told by short people about tall people are ok too but don't mention dwarves.

 

[Smokin Joe]

I have reported "Paddy" jokes in the past and they were not removed, so I guess they are deemed acceptable (although "Rastus" versions might not be; progress is often slow).

I'm Irish and I'm not in the least bit offended by "Paddy" jokes. When we Irish get together Irish jokes are often told. And many of the best Jewish jokes are told by Jews.

Some races are offended when they are the butt of jokes, others don't mind.

 

[AndyRM]

Aston Villa's defence, not good but most definitely a joke.

 

[Shaun]

The moderator team don't have time to read everything posted on CC, so if you think something is inappropriate please use the report link underneath the post and tell us why. This applies to the whole of CC, not just this thread.

Thanks,
Shaun

PS. If anyone has a formula for what makes a joke acceptable, please let me know; in my experience humour can be quite subjective and difficult to moderate.

 

[swee'pea99]

I'm Irish and I'm not in the least bit offended by "Paddy" jokes.

Probably you just don't understand them.

 

[theclaud]

It can't work to a formula, and it isn't really about whether you can find people who don't mind being the button of jokes that rely on objectionable stereotypes. The joke about the guy killing his wife was astonishingly misogynistic on several levels. I mind about jokes like that, but there will be some women prepared to say they don't mind. Meanwhile, women continue to be characterised in that way, including quite often on this forum, and men continue to punish and control women with violence. The two most recent ones were just cringe worthy. Jokes about black men allegedly having large penises were relatively common currency in the casually racist bit of England I grew up in. I daresay I even thought they were funny and risqué when I was at school, where nearly everyone was white. Wouldn't it be nice to think this was a bigger, better and more inclusive place? Instead of asking us if something was funny when Richard Pryor told it somewhere else, start by asking yourself if it's funny with you telling it, here and now.

 

[swee'pea99]

It can't work to a formula, and it isn't really about whether you can find people who don't mind being the button of jokes that rely on objectionable stereotypes. The joke about the guy killing his wife was astonishingly misogynistic on several levels. I mind about jokes like that, but there will be some women prepared to say they don't mind. Meanwhile, women continue to be characterised in that way, including quite often on this forum, and men continue to punish and control women with violence. The two most recent ones were just cringe worthy. Jokes about black men allegedly having large penises were relatively common currency in the casually racist bit of England I grew up in. I daresay I even thought they were funny and risqué when I was at school, where nearly everyone was white. Wouldn't it be nice to think this was a bigger, better and more inclusive place? Instead of asking us if something was funny when Richard Pryor told it somewhere else, start by asking yourself if it's funny with you telling it, here and now.

Indeed.

By way of illustration, a recent post:

Just watched an old Hitchcock - his penultimate film, apparently - about a serial killer in London. An early scene features a couple of blokes in a pub discussing the latest killing:

#1: Apparently he rapes his victims before he kills them.
#2: Yes, well, they say there's always a silver lining

This 'joke', for it is clearly meant as such - ie, at least they get a bit of fun before they're murdered - is appreciated by the landlady, who gives the 'joker' a smirking 'Oo, you are awful' smile as she turns away to get their drinks.

This, mark you, in a film made in 1972.

The good old days, eh? None of this PC nonsense.

 

[theclaud]

Indeed.

By way of illustration, a recent post:

Just watched an old Hitchcock - his penultimate film, apparently - about a serial killer in London. An early scene features a couple of blokes in a pub discussing the latest killing:

#1: Apparently he rapes his victims before he kills them.
#2: Yes, well, they say there's always a silver lining

This 'joke', for it is clearly meant as such - ie, at least they get a bit of fun before they're murdered - is appreciated by the landlady, who gives the 'joker' a smirking 'Oo, you are awful' smile as she turns away to get their drinks.

This, mark you, in a film made in 1972.

The good old days, eh? None of this PC nonsense.

Ah - Frenzy. More importantly, even in 1972 there were at least two simultaneous contexts for such a joke - the fictional setting in which it is being told, and the implied audience for the film itself, who are not being told the joke in the same sense that the bloke in the pub or the barmaid is. This thread isn't a mediated form. To tell a gag here is to endorse it.

 

[martint235]

Two fish in a tank. One says "you man the guns, I'll drive"

Nope, pseudo-violence and cruelty to fish.

I'll shoot myself on my way out. Damn that's probably offended someone too.

May as well close the thread

 

[Shaun]

It can't work to a formula, and it isn't really about whether you can find people who don't mind being the button of jokes that rely on objectionable stereotypes. The joke about the guy killing his wife was astonishingly misogynistic on several levels. I mind about jokes like that, but there will be some women prepared to say they don't mind. Meanwhile, women continue to be characterised in that way, including quite often on this forum, and men continue to punish and control women with violence. The two most recent ones were just cringe worthy. Jokes about black men allegedly having large penises were relatively common currency in the casually racist bit of England I grew up in. I daresay I even thought they were funny and risqué when I was at school, where nearly everyone was white. Wouldn't it be nice to think this was a bigger, better and more inclusive place? Instead of asking us if something was funny when Richard Pryor told it somewhere else, start by asking yourself if it's funny with you telling it, here and now.

I agree. There isn't a formula. We're often unaware of people's background, race, religion, sexuality, so trying to judge whether a joke is contextual for that individual or not isn't easy. Some jokes are universally offensive though and will be removed immediately if they are seen or reported, but "the line" isn't something I can define for the moderator team so we really do need to rely on members reporting.

I've always strived to make CycleChat an inclusive place and feel we've done a good job, in the main, but humour is subjective and what you find offensive might not bother someone else (and vice versa). If you report it, and others do too, then that gives me and the moderator team a good indiciation of people's strength of feeling and increases the chances of the content being moderated.

This thread isn't a mediated form. To tell a gag here is to endorse it.

Not at all. If content isn't reported there cannot be any expectation of the moderator team seeing it. If you feel something is inappropriate, report it.

Thanks,
Shaun