205 miles in a day (Tommy Godwin Challenge) - the Progress thread

[Mugshot]

^^^^^ This is true.

 

[totallyfixed]

Even when Kurt is riding into a head wind, do not underestimate the nullifying effect of traffic overtaking, and from what I have seen they are not exactly quiet roads. There are a significant number of time triallists in the UK who ride on DC's with high traffic levels in order to clock artificially quick times.

 

[ianrauk]

From Jo over at the other place

Day 60: As we enter the third month, both riders will need to start increasing their daily mileage. Steve's schedule suggests he will start riding above the 205 miles per day WR pace moving upward on the OYTT chart.

 

[ianrauk]

As what Jo has said above.
Looking at Steve's blog. March is where he starts to step up on the mileage stakes.

Month hours req av speed curr rec diff ave dist total accu

January 12/13/14 14.2 13 12.1 153 17 170 5270 5270

February 12/13/14 15 13.8 12.9 157 23 180 5040 10310

March 13/14/15 15.4 14.3 13.3 178 22 200 6200 16510

 

[Tim Hall]

Interesting charty thing HERE showing the riders progress and stats.

Edit: Incredible that despite what they're doing, at their current averages they still wouldn't beat the record.

What it doesn't show is where Tommy Godwin was at this point in his challenge. (Answer: well behind both Steve and Kurt)

 

[Mugshot]

^^^^ This is true too.

 

[Donger]

Im a bit tired now but am I the only one who cant understand that graph?

I'm sure they showed us that one at the office the other day to show us all we have to work much harder from now on.

 

[PpPete]

What it doesn't show is where Tommy Godwin was at this point in his challenge. (Answer: well behind both Steve and Kurt)

^^^^ This is true too.

Er - no it's not.
Probably best to read the instructions here

 

[Banjo]

Three numbers would do. Tommys total mileage up to day no. 95 or whatever. Followed by Steve and Kurts. (we know Kurt started later)

All these graphs ,spreadsheets etc are just over complicating something very simple.

 

[Tim Hall]

Er - no it's not.
Probably best to read the instructions here

Read them. How does that tie in with the statement on the OYTT website:

Tommy's Total Distance
9542 Miles
Steve's Total Distance
11482 Miles
At end of 02 Mar

 

[ColinJ]

Probably best to read the instructions here

How? That must be the worst font ever used on a website!

 

[PpPete]

How? That must be the worst font ever used on a website!

Can't argue with that.

Read them. How does that tie in with the statement on the OYTT website:

It doesn't directly but it explains what, at first sight, seems an odd or 'skewed' presentation of the numbers.

There are 4 solid (but wiggly) lines on the chart.
One each for the current three challengers (although one of them isnt doing much challenging)
The other one is Tommy's progress. That's the one that dips well down at the beginning, climbs steeply and finishes at the same point as the right hand end of the 205 mile a day horizontal axis (if you are are looking at the full year version).
At a glance it tells you that Kurt is very close (maybe a 100 miles behind) the 205 mile a day average
Steve is approximately 1000 miles behind the 205 mile a day average
Tommy was, at the beginning of March '39, about 3000 miles off that same average.

 

[Mugshot]

What it doesn't show is where Tommy Godwin was at this point in his challenge. (Answer: well behind both Steve and Kurt)

^^^^ This is true too.

Er - no it's not.
Probably best to read the instructions here

I, not sure about Tim although I've made an assumption, wasn't referring to the wiggly line chart I was referring to this ONE.
I have also assumed that as Tim quoted my post concerning the riders not beating the record at their current averages his comment about Tommy being well behind both Steve and Kurt at this point refers to the fact that Steve is 1925 miles and Kurt 2487 miles ahead of where Tommy at the same stage. Which is shown in THIS chart.

 

[mcshroom]

Think of the black line (x-axis) as that bar they show for swimming events which tracks at the average speed of the World Record backwards and forwards along the pool. If the swimmer is in front of that line, they are going faster than WR pace, if they are behind then they are going slower. In the same way, if the riders in the HAMR are above the black line then they are ahead of the average WR pace, but as they are below it then they are behind at present.

Tommy Godwin did not ride at his average distance every day for a year, so he also has a grey line on the chart. Both Teethgrinder and Tarzan are beating where Godwin was at this point in his year, but behind his overall average for the whole year as he put mega miles in during the summer which brings the average up.

 

[Pale Rider]

Think of the black line (x-axis) as that bar they show for swimming events which tracks at the average speed of the World Record backwards and forwards along the pool. If the swimmer is in front of that line, they are going faster than WR pace, if they are behind then they are going slower. In the same way, if the riders in the HAMR are above the black line then they are ahead of the average WR pace, but as they are below it then they are behind at present.

Tommy Godwin did not ride at his average distance every day for a year, so he also has a grey line on the chart. Both Teethgrinder and Tarzan are beating where Godwin was at this point in his year, but behind his overall average for the whole year as he put mega miles in during the summer which brings the average up.

Indeed, the black line is a notional rider who rides 205 miles for each of the 365 days.

With thanks, again, to Jo, this year long graph shows how Steve's projected distances increase, and how his daily average will go above 205 miles somewhere between day 121 and about day 170.

It also shows how Steve is aiming to beat Tommy's record by up to 12,000 miles.