Hi Andy - I've not fitted the bike yet. I had a real life ride last night and will be busy tonight, but later in the week I'll get it set up and give Zwift a go.
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Hi Andy - I've not fitted the bike yet. I had a real life ride last night and will be busy tonight, but later in the week I'll get it set up and give Zwift a go.
berty bassett
Legendary Member
- Location
- I'boro
Just had an email telling me to join the 112 tt challenge to have a chance of winning the bike for real - as long as I ride the tt bike on Zwift so tonight you can pick a flat course - please
berty bassett
Legendary Member
- Location
- I'boro
Come on you lot ! Sitting here waiting for slabs to turn up and no-one is talking
Brendan Parker
Veteran
- Location
- essex, england
I think Andy has said this before but I totally agree. It’s one of them things if you’ve never had it you wouldn’t notice. But now I have I t would be strange without. I find climbing so much easier and also no numb turbo ass because seem to change position more than without. I would recommend
bobinski
Legendary Member
- Location
- Tulse Hill
<Tommy>
Illegitimi non carborundum
- Location
- Camden, London
I think Andy has said this before but I totally agree. It’s one of them things if you’ve never had it you wouldn’t notice. But now I have I t would be strange without. I find climbing so much easier and also no numb turbo ass because seem to change position more than without. I would recommend
Is it effected if you reduce the realism on Zwift?
<Tommy>
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- Camden, London
I’d have you cleaning the van rather than standing about in your phone. Just saying ...
Its a really nice addition to my setup Tommy. You'll probably know I built my first rocker early this year, that improved the feel of riding a static bike considerably. Once the new Kickr and Climb were announced, i thought they would make a great package with a rocker. That lead me to V2 rocker- full length. The package now is really like riding outdoors for the feel you get from side to side motion whilst either sat or stood and now the handlebars rise to match gradient. This relieves saddle position discomfort massively. The angle also places your body where you'd be whilst climbing so are using the same muscles. I'll be hoping to do some hundred milers on Zwift either with a pack or solo this winter so hope it will be bonus in comfort for those rides.
Realism setting affects the gradient, but there is a clever but simple work around. By using the wahoo fitness app, you can alter the wheelbase length of the bike. In my case I have 50% realism so alter my wheelbase to 2014mm. This makes the climb go to 10% incline when Zwift says its 10%. The realsim is to allow different gearing for their inclines. I use a 53/39 and11-28, but can still spin up the Alpe on Zwift. I'd never be able to do that in real life
Power is Power as they say and that's how Zwift works out its speed for ridersI understand the Climb is only compatible with Wahoo products.
https://support.wahoofitness.com/hc...264-What-Trainers-are-KICKR-CLIMB-Compatible-
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Aleman
Knees are FUBAR but I don't like to mention it
- Location
- Blackpool UK
Yeah, and if Tacx doesn't come up with something equivalent soon, I won't be getting the Neo in January ... In fact as I suspect they are working flat out on teh Tacx Trainer Bike we won't see a climb equivalent from them until next year.
Interesting, and useful, to hear that it makes for more comfortable long sessions, as that is where I want to go with training this winter.
theboxers
TheBoxers on Cycle Sim sw
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- OTC (on the couch)
If you mean gradient, it is. If you set 50% realism you get 50% of the slope. However there is a workaround.
In the wahoo app there is a wheelbase measurement. If you increase the wheelbase you get the reduced zwift gradient difficulty, but the real gradient angle simulated by the climb IYSWIM.
If you have 20% difficulty set with a bike that has a 1000mm wheelbase on a hill with a 10% gradient. The climb will give a 2% slope. If you increase the wheelbase to 5000mm the climb will give 10%. There are videos by DCR and GPLama showing how this is done.
berty bassett
Legendary Member
- Location
- I'boro
done ! - trouble maker !I’d have you cleaning the van rather than standing about in your phone. Just saying ...
New graphics card arrived. Think I'll test it with
TTR Cruiser 2.5-2.7 WKG and/or WBR 1 Flat Lap Race Reverse (9.8km/6mi)
TTR Cruiser 2.5-2.7 WKG and/or WBR 1 Flat Lap Race Reverse (9.8km/6mi)
Brendan Parker
Veteran
- Location
- essex, england
Tommy my answer is honestly I don’t know as never tried. But the climb is connected to kickr and not app so just simulates what the trainer resistance is.
Will keep you posted.
Oh and read @theboxers @CXRAndy reply after mine.
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<Tommy>
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- Camden, London
Cheers BertThat is handy. Makes all the difference. Although if you want as realistic experience as possible I suppose you could say you should put realism at 100%. In my limited Zwift experience I found gear shifting at that level a bit excessive.
You’d have to assume tacx will bring out something similar to the climb. Though maybe wahoo have managed to steal a march and scooped up all the surrounding design principles under copyright. Or maybe tacx are holding back a little until the next round of ‘innovations’. Nothing companies like more than drip feeding technology to allow us to justify new purchases! You’d have to say with the design aesthetic of the tacx bike they’ve allowed themselves a decent amount of wiggle room I make the next incarnation more appealing on the eye.
I guess in my mind I’d probably go tacx bike > kickr with climb> tacx neo at this point. Just because the climb adds something over the neo. Although I think I heard somewhere the kickr is putting out less accurate power figures than the neo I’m not sure that means much in real terms. And let’s be honest, they all look like great bits of kit. The only reason the bike wins for me is because of its self standing nature.
I’ve been waiting on dcrainmaker’s affiliate to put up the neo bike for sale for over a week and I lost a bit of patience yesterday. So I tapped up someone I ride around the park with sometimes, called in a favour, and I’m hopeful I’ll have the bike ordered in the next couple of days (everything crossed at this point!). But it still means I’ll have to wait until mid December I think. So I see lots of cold rides and multiple layers of clothes in my immediate future...
bobinski
Legendary Member
- Location
- Tulse Hill
Lee, if I can get back for 6 I will ride the 6-35 race.
