Zwift Chat

[JuhaL]

1h45min of Zwifting and after that 55min snow shoveling, I think that suppose to be enough of training for a one day .

 

[mjd1988]

https://zwiftinsider.com/zrs-changelog/

Some sensible stuff in there but doubt it'll be anywhere near perfect!

 

[CXRAndy]

Good stuff in there

 

[IrishAl]

https://zwiftinsider.com/zrs-changelog/

Some sensible stuff in there but doubt it'll be anywhere near perfect!

Good to see the “anti-tanking” feature coming in…

It appears as if a small minority of racers have been purposely “tanking” their scores by entering races and essentially soft-pedaling to get a bad result and lower their ZRS, so Zwift is working to implement changes to detect and stop this sort of intentional score manipulation.

 

[mjd1988]

Good to see the “anti-tanking” feature coming in…

I don't know how they didn't assume a fair chunk of ppl would do that

 

[CXRAndy]

Good to see the “anti-tanking” feature coming in…

I'm doing quite well at my own tanking. Every event, I keep losing ranking points

 

[CXRAndy]

I know I'm going through a poor patch of form, but I feel the boundaries have moved a little

 

[13 rider]

The quest continues 98 kmph off the radio tower 😞, bike change at the top TT with disc wheels only had a draft Pu we only a couple of people to draft . Need an aero Pu and bit more than a 600w kick

 

[Whorty]

I don't know how they didn't assume a fair chunk of ppl would do that

They say only about 1% - if that's correct then it's a lot of development and cost for a very small % of riders. I suspect though it's currently higher than that as too many riders have too high a seed/ZRS and they want to reduce it to a value that reflects where they really are (I'm definitely in that category).

Thing is though, it's still easy to tank ZRS - just let the pack go in the first minute, then ride hard as a solo rider for the rest of the ride - result is a decent effort in power/HRM but a poor finish position as the pack will go much faster than a solo rider. This is undetectable as getting dropped from a pack is par for the course in racing.

I still think Zwift are trying to solve the wrong problems that they have created with ZRS.

 

[JuhaL]

Can't remember how I reach 100km/h from the radio tower. It's been a long time ago, probably soon after WW2.

 

[13 rider]

I may have to resort to reverse weight doping

 

[Supersuperleeds]

I may have to resort to reverse weight doping

Find a group ride doing Bologna, it's dead easy to get like that, even for a skinny bugger like you.

 

[CXRAndy]

The quest continues 98 kmph off the radio tower 😞, bike change at the top TT with disc wheels only had a draft Pu we only a couple of people to draft . Need an aero Pu and bit more than a 600w kick

If you do a big go taking you into the descent, followed by another sprint 10secs later, then super tuck into the steepest section

 

[CXRAndy]

Liking my Garmin integration. I should have done it earlier. I'd read that Garmin wouldn't accept indoor riding and use it to calculate all sorts of other metrics, recovery, V02 max etc. But it does work 😁

 

[Whorty]

They say only about 1% - if that's correct then it's a lot of development and cost for a very small % of riders. I suspect though it's currently higher than that as too many riders have too high a seed/ZRS and they want to reduce it to a value that reflects where they really are (I'm definitely in that category).

Thing is though, it's still easy to tank ZRS - just let the pack go in the first minute, then ride hard as a solo rider for the rest of the ride - result is a decent effort in power/HRM but a poor finish position as the pack will go much faster than a solo rider. This is undetectable as getting dropped from a pack is par for the course in racing.

I still think Zwift are trying to solve the wrong problems that they have created with ZRS.

Another undetectable way to lower your ZRS score is to stick with the pack until 5km or so until the end. For most races, certainly flatter ones, this gives a decent 30-35 minutes of effort. Then for a few seconds just lose the back wheel and let the pack go. Raise the power again to tempo power and the pack will continue to pull away and your power numbers and HR will still look like you've raced hard because for all but 20 seconds you did race hard.
Result, there are loads of riders ahead of you and your ZRS reduces. And you had a great workout.
I can easily see some racing hard on a Tuesday in leagues, winning a race, then during the week getting good workouts but reducing their ZRS to allow them to win a race the following Tuesday.
Zwift seem to be looking for riders who ride Z2 and cruise around a race as an example of tanking their ZRS, but the reality will be that they have actually made it easier with ZRS to manage the score if someone so wishes.