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Milzy

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Was fun, must do it again. I thought I’d have no chance against Bridgey & Peter Salt but hung in. Totally faded on the last climb. Need a few months to find some form back. Melville is just a straight A rider so no chance trying to stay on such fire power.
 

Whorty

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Location
Wiltshire
Was fun, must do it again. I thought I’d have no chance against Bridgey & Peter Salt but hung in. Totally faded on the last climb. Need a few months to find some form back. Melville is just a straight A rider so no chance trying to stay on such fire power.

Stay off the pies, you'll be flying up the hills again ;) :laugh:
 
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CXRAndy

CXRAndy

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Lincs
Was fun, must do it again. I thought I’d have no chance against Bridgey & Peter Salt but hung in. Totally faded on the last climb. Need a few months to find some form back. Melville is just a straight A rider so no chance trying to stay on such fire power.

Haven't seen you in a while Adam, nice to see you in the event :okay:

Think most of us faded trying to catch or stay away from someone
 

Legs

usually riding on Zwift...
Location
Staffordshire

View: https://youtu.be/ORfp04CrY3k


I didn't have spare energy tonight for remembering to switch rider views, sorry

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Why do you allow your power to spike up and down so much on the climbs, Andy? On the upper slopes of Fox, you were regularly pushing 350W, but then dropping back to 200W, sometimes less. I find it much less physiologically demanding to try for a constant-ish power (though, for a given overall effort, which approach manifests itself in a higher avatar speed is a matter of much debate...)

My legs are feeling trashed from last night. Although I pulled out a decent lead on the first ascent, I lost 10s or so on the descent - wasn't able to get the supertuck working - and had to push really hard on the flat to keep a safe margin for the second climb - it seemed from the timings that Paul, Pete and Adam were working pretty well together. I was also on my Bridgestone Anchor / Meilensteins, because I figured the race would be won and lost on the climbs.
 
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Legs

usually riding on Zwift...
Location
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Was fun, must do it again. I thought I’d have no chance against Bridgey & Peter Salt but hung in. Totally faded on the last climb. Need a few months to find some form back. Melville is just a straight A rider so no chance trying to stay on such fire power.
I am an A, but not by much. I knew I had to push hard to get away because @bridgy has got great 1- to 5-minute power for climbs like Fox, and @Peter Salt 's sprinting w/kg would leave me standing. I was right on the limit and all three of you were clawing back time on me on the second climb.
 

13 rider

Guru
Location
leicester
Phil, you rode two very consistent Fox hills, only 5s difference and a new PB too:okay:.

Glad I got a gap on the flat section or I would have been burnt toast
Cheers Andy , The first climb felt relatively easy and I knew I was near a PB hence the sprint at the end ( and the bonus of beating Carl ) and the second climb I did have a carrot to chase up it !. Your video needed the jaws music playing on the second climb .
Fox hill is the one hill in zwift that seems to suit me having done it many times during FRR and I understand were to push etc
 

bridgy

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Location
Cheddar
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Why do you allow your power to spike up and down so much on the climbs, Andy? On the upper slopes of Fox, you were regularly pushing 350W, but then dropping back to 200W, sometimes less. I find it much less physiologically demanding to try for a constant-ish power (though, for a given overall effort, which approach manifests itself in a higher avatar speed is a matter of much debate...)

My legs are feeling trashed from last night. Although I pulled out a decent lead on the first ascent, I lost 10s or so on the descent - wasn't able to get the supertuck working - and had to push really hard on the flat to keep a safe margin for the second climb - it seemed from the timings that Paul, Pete and Adam were working pretty well together.

To be honest we didn't worth particularly well together - I think we were all knackered! My power on the climb was way off my previous best (by around 40 watts) - no excuses but I'm just currently not in my best form - I haven't been this year at all to be honest after setbacks from flu and Covid after Xmas I've just never got back to my best (yet!). I certainly knew quite quickly that I couldn't match your power first time up Fox Hill last night.

I didn't realise until the results came up quite how close I'd got back up to you on the final climb - I think it was only about 15 seconds in the end. The one encouraging thing from the ride was that I was a bit faster on the second ascent, so although I feel my fitness is a bit crap right now it can't be too awful! No way I could have done what you did with that long solo effot though - well done!
 

Legs

usually riding on Zwift...
Location
Staffordshire
To be honest we didn't worth particularly well together - I think we were all knackered! My power on the climb was way off my previous best (by around 40 watts) - no excuses but I'm just currently not in my best form - I haven't been this year at all to be honest after setbacks from flu and Covid after Xmas I've just never got back to my best (yet!). I certainly knew quite quickly that I couldn't match your power first time up Fox Hill last night.
You'll be back on it soon enough, Paul! :okay:
 
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CXRAndy

CXRAndy

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Why do you allow your power to spike up and down so much on the climbs, Andy? On the upper slopes of Fox, you were regularly pushing 350W, but then dropping back to 200W, sometimes less. I find it much less physiologically demanding to try for a constant-ish power (though, for a given overall effort, which approach manifests itself in a higher avatar speed is a matter of much debate...)

My legs are feeling trashed from last night. Although I pulled out a decent lead on the first ascent, I lost 10s or so on the descent - wasn't able to get the supertuck working - and had to push really hard on the flat to keep a safe margin for the second climb - it seemed from the timings that Paul, Pete and Adam were working pretty well together. I was also on my Bridgestone Anchor / Meilensteins, because I figured the race would be won and lost on the climbs.

I think I was trying to hang on, so I find I can power up to get back onto the wheel and then ease off. I should train more to be consistent. Trouble is I've not done any structured training with consistent power for so long- its all racing where it is micro bursts hanging onto wheel in the pack.
 
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CXRAndy

CXRAndy

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Location
Lincs
had to push really hard on the flat to keep a safe margin for the second climb - it seemed from the timings that Paul, Pete and Adam were working pretty well together

I would have expected a small pack to reel a solo rider in. By the sounds of it, everyone had loss of form from fatigue/illness.
 

JuhaL

Guru
Now that I have been a flu I have noticed how amazingly well Garmin Fenix 7s gives a sign that you are coming ill. HRV-status start to drop, also training status change from productive to strained, today it's been recovery which sounds much better.
 
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