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[bobinski]

I honestly dont think 6-8 weeks is enough, whether polarised training or not , to approach a multi day, long rides with loads of climbing event. It simply doesnt give you enought time to improve your endurance fitness. With a 2 week on/1 week off plan you are looking at only 4-6 weeks of actual riding. Life intervenes in our best laid training plans and you would be unlikley to get the most out of such a short period without illness, work/life stress getting in the way. No dout there would be some tangiable improvement but i doubt of the level required to have a meaningful impact on endurence, especuially over 5 days of hard riding. That said Andy, you are welcome to join us

 

[CXRAndy]

You never did say what you ordered for lunch that day you stopped half way up alp d’huez for a meal.

If you're not enjoying it whilst doing it, it not worth it

I assume you're doing Marmot tours. They will be having mini breaks and longer breaks per day.

Id definitely be stopping for photos and to admire the amazing vistas

 

[CXRAndy]

I honestly dont think 6-8 weeks is enough, whether polarised training or not , to approach a multi day, long rides with loads of climbing event. It simply doesnt give you enought time to improve your endurance fitness. With a 2 week on/1 week off plan you are looking at only 4-6 weeks of actual riding. Life intervenes in our best laid training plans and you would be unlikley to get the most out of such a short period without illness, work/life stress getting in the way. No dout there would be some tangiable improvement but i doubt of the level required to have a meaningful impact on endurence, especuially over 5 days of hard riding. That said Andy, you are welcome to join us

Id be riding 5 days a week of varying duration, virtually all Z1/2. For 6 weeks. I would do 3 weeks on increasing load then 50% of that on week 4 then repeat.

As Alex alluded to, it's the starting base line, which is important.

The longest turbo session I did to get ready for Tenerife was 2.5 hours. Has you know Bob an indoor turbo session with literally non stop pedaling is far superior in training than an outdoor 2.5 hour session.

I found the week very pleasant, no difficulty.

What was the biggest game changer for me was cutting out virtually all carbs. I became fat adapted, needed far less food and only drank water on ride days.

I understand your reasoning, but you're coming back after a period of non riding from surgery.

My year off from cycling, took me 4 months to get 80% maybe a bit more to feel fit again

 

[alex_cycles]

Don't know if anyone's clocked it, but WTRL are saying on FB that the draft powerups should work with TT bikes tomorrow.
So don't be surprised if they do (or don't ). Might be a chance to take a bit of a breather for a few seconds.

 

[Whorty]

If you're not enjoying it whilst doing it, it not worth it

I assume you're doing Marmot tours. They will be having mini breaks and longer breaks per day.

Id definitely be stopping for photos and to admire the amazing vistas

Nah, I'd be riding like I was a pro ... it's the only way to cycle Anything less just isn't worth it

 

[Whorty]

Id be riding 5 days a week of varying duration, virtually all Z1/2. For 6 weeks. I would do 3 weeks on increasing load then 50% of that on week 4 then repeat.

As Alex alluded to, it's the starting base line, which is important.

The longest turbo session I did to get ready for Tenerife was 2.5 hours. Has you know Bob an indoor turbo session with literally non stop pedaling is far superior in training than an outdoor 2.5 hour session.

I found the week very pleasant, no difficulty.

What was the biggest game changer for me was cutting out virtually all carbs. I became fat adapted, needed far less food and only drank water on ride days.

I understand your reasoning, but you're coming back after a period of non riding from surgery.

My year off from cycling, took me 4 months to get 80% maybe a bit more to feel fit again

I did all my training for Tenerife, bar maybe a couple of outdoor rides, on the turbo. I think I may have done a few 3 hour rides, and like you it was mostly easy tempo pace. I managed to get to the top of El Teide, and I wasn't last in the group. On the 'flatter' rolling days I was pulling along other riders.

I'll never be the strongest rider at distance, but if you can ride 2 hours outdoors, you can ride 6, so long as you drink and eat enough during the day and don't bonk And like you, I did it for the enjoyment, not because I'm a wanna be pro

 

[<Tommy>]

Nothing like an armchair expert is there!

As I say, it really just depends what you want out of it. I guess we like pushing ourselves physically. No illusions about riding like a pro… just trying to push to the limit. Same mentality in zwift really. I guess leather chaffs when you sweat too much eh!

 

[Norry1]

I did plan to have a Z2 day today but as I had to take an unscheduled day off yesterday I decided to race today. Will be doing the Race Like pro race at 15:10 if anyone interested.

 

[Peter Salt]

Final standings are in @13 rider. Great result, especially in the climbing department

 

[alex_cycles]

Nah, I'd be riding like I was a pro ... it's the only way to cycle Anything less just isn't worth it

The new "Race Like a Poo" series started today

 

[Whorty]

The new "Race Like a Poo" series started today

I just saw that .... not for me .. I'm happy being a 52 year old amatuer who enjoys a spin a couple of times a week

 

[<Tommy>]

If you're not enjoying it whilst doing it, it not worth it

I assume you're doing Marmot tours. They will be having mini breaks and longer breaks per day.

Id definitely be stopping for photos and to admire the amazing vistas

We looked at doing one of the haute events. But in the end chose the raid for that reason. The haute is essentially a race, and we want to be able to stop and enjoy the scenery at the tops of the climbs. I don’t remember the view from the restaurant being anything to write home about

All jokes aside it’s just horses for courses really. Some people climb Everest solo. Some hire Sherpas. And some take a helicopter ride to the top.

It just seems like we’re talking apples and oranges in terms of goals.

 

[alex_cycles]

I did plan to have a Z2 day today but as I had to take an unscheduled day off yesterday I decided to race today. Will be doing the Race Like pro race at 15:10 if anyone interested.

I'll probably go for that one on Wed/Thu. I did the first of the short TT series today as it's ZRL tomorrow.

View: https://youtu.be/8fapiPDSfXw

 

[alex_cycles]

I just saw that .... not for me .. I'm happy being a 52 year old amatuer who enjoys a spin a couple of times a week

Isn't the title misleading though? It's just the new short race series for December, like Race Makuri was in November.
I'll be doing them

 

[Whorty]

Isn't the title misleading though? It's just the new short race series for December, like Race Makuri was in November.
I'll be doing them

I'm in Prague from Thursday through to Tuesday so no riding for me ... will be back in time for the Libby race if selected, but equally happy to step aside if there are enough climbers fancying their chances