Not to not pick (can you sense the ‘but’ coming?!)
But… I think you’re both doing training plans of your own design but maybe not articulating it as a plan. You’re both consistently doing the same thing on a regular basis. Which in turn will dictate what you get out of it.
I know you’re teasing Peter but you are right in truth. I don’t ever focus / train on my 15s power. It is intentional really. I think I look at it if a sprint at the end of the race. But someone 15s power after 2 or 5 km etc doesn’t really interest me. What they can do at the end of the race (what I’d consider traditionally the ‘business end’) is more relevant to me. I know that’s not the same for everyone. Hence why some people like prime style racing a lot more than me.
But really this conversation for me isn’t about the pros and cons of prime races. It’s more the pros and cons of our varying regimes.
Yes, boils down to what you think a 'training plan' is. To me it would be sitting down, fleshing out specific fitness goals, and then developing a 10-week, 12-week, whatever-week structured way of achieving that through training rides. I've no idea and no desire to think about what my rides will be in the coming week - and it's Saturday
I do self-impose a goal every now and again, but usually when I'm already near it, like 250W for 60 min - recently hit, or 1200W for 15s - working on it.
Definitely agree with the general point of ZRL making people focus on sprinting/punching. One of the main reasons why I try to mix it up with the FRR. Also agree that things are dramatically different if you're targeting a specific event.
Some truth and very valid points there. I can’t get away from another truth, which is that indoor training is fundamentally boring. I rode Tire Bouchon 62km last week as I’m running out of new routes, and it reminded me that an indoor ride >2 hours actually isn’t all that much fun. Whereas outside several hours is very enjoyable. I think that must be why people are favouring shorter but higher intensity (also time constraints), and racing fits the bill quite well.
I'm very weird when it comes to this - literally don't mind sitting on the indoor bike for 3h and watching the same digital landscape go by over and over again.
I may have bitten off more than I can chew . I had riden 4 of 5 stages of Race Makuri so needed to finish that off but I'm also 6 of 8 stages down of Flamme rouge tour de Britiania. So last night did stage 6 Frr another lumpy 44kms round Harrogate this morning stage 5a (7km) flat and fast and 5b (5km) uphill back to back . Was ok in first race held the front group and sort of sprinted ,2nd race really struggled to hold power up the climb but did reasonable . So that leaves Stage 7 of Frr a pootle around Surrey hills with 1000mts of upness for tonight . Wish me luck
It's tough. The tub of ice cream helped yesterday and I managed to ride just 5W under my 20-min. best set on Monday, but couldn't make it stick for the entire stage, arrived through the finish in 3rd group on the road.
The stage today... The Surrey Hills - what's there to say... Total elevation of the Alpe but 46km of road... Will probably take me an hour and a half. If this was stage 3, I would really question my choices. Since it's the penultimate one (7/8) - it's more about determination than anything else. If I die and have to finish at 2.0W/kg, I will.
I hope you haven't still been cycling to work and back on top of all this 
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