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Whorty

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Location
Wiltshire
They don’t though do they. Even though they know the truth about the situation they’re in. It goes back to my original coining of a certain phrase. It’s tragic. But in the end you have to tell yourself that it’s their choice and a reflection of where they’re at as people. And then it’s easy to make peace with because there’s much more important things in life.

Why should they self upgrade if they aren't breaking cat boundaries? True some may be holding back, but I chat to a number of them offline and I know they bust a gut each week too. No one is cheating. Everyone is comfortable with what they are doing and at the end of the day we're all getting/staying fit which is ultimately what Zwift is for.

So happy days.

We may get a bit of a kicking most weeks, but we also have a laugh in the C races.
 

Whorty

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Location
Wiltshire
What do you mean  I have a double-date? You lot signed up as well. You're not going to just leave me, right?

I'm washing my hair ... Bologna is a risk to my C cat status, so best I avoid it :whistle:
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
Why should they self upgrade if they aren't breaking cat boundaries? True some may be holding back, but I chat to a number of them offline and I know they bust a gut each week too. No one is cheating. Everyone is comfortable with what they are doing and at the end of the day we're all getting/staying fit which is ultimately what Zwift is for.

So happy days.

We may get a bit of a kicking most weeks, but we also have a laugh in the C races.

:laugh: Keep telling yourself that usain 👍

As I say, I think I speak for quite a few when I say I look forward to a new cat system with open arms.
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
I think that your post before last says it all really mate. I’ve nothing much more to add . I don’t want to throw fuel on the fire… And it’s probably the best post I’ve ever read in terms of articlaulting what it looks like from the other side of the road so to speak. For what it’s worth, we’re not “all comfortable with it”. In fact for a lot of us it kinda spoils our races. But hey ho… I know where you stand now.

I suspect you’re not the worst by a long shot, just one of many... And it doesn’t effect my emotions. I save that for more important things. There’s a guy in our latest league series who’s been relentless... No doubt he busts a gut too though eh… it’s all good. No hard feelings. I won’t waste more energy on it today. Hope you have a good weekend 👍
 

Whorty

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Wiltshire
I think that your post before last says it all really mate. I’ve nothing much more to add . I don’t want to throw fuel on the fire… And it’s probably the best post I’ve ever read in terms of articlaulting what it looks like from the other side of the road so to speak. For what it’s worth, we’re not “all comfortable with it”. In fact for a lot of us it kinda spoils our races. But hey ho… I know where you stand now.

I suspect you’re not the worst by a long shot, just one of many... And it doesn’t effect my emotions. I save that for more important things. There’s a guy in our latest league series who’s been relentless... No doubt he busts a gut too though eh… it’s all good. No hard feelings. I won’t waste more energy on it today. Hope you have a good weekend 👍

The worst what Tommy? I race in the cat that I'm allocated to based on my power. I'm sorry you can't accept that, but I'm afraid that's your problem not mine. You and a couple of others do seem to get a bit too fascinated by me and my racing .. have done for some time.

And don't forget, you was in A once, as I was in B ... so any reason why you don't self promote to A? I'm sure if you raced with the big boys you'd get faster and stronger too ... or is this self upgrading only suitable to others and not yourself?

Yep, have a fab weekend mate ... no hard feelings :cheers:
 

berty bassett

Legendary Member
Location
I'boro
Signed back up to Zwift for a month ( really changed hasn’t it ! ) did a little ride just to make sure all things work
Signed up for the flame rouge thing as well , guessing it’s gonna be best to do an early one on the tt and give yourself chance to recover for ventoux the next day !! Personally I like a tt - I’m no good at them but it represents your own effort - I am dead when I cross the line
 

Whorty

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Location
Wiltshire
I'm washing my hair ... Bologna is a risk to my C cat status, so best I avoid it :whistle:

For those who think this was a serious post ... I raced up Bologna recently. Averaged 3.1 w/kg for 20 mins. Nowhere near B numbers.

I don't tend to ride Bologna as I hate the course, too dull for me. I prefer to race in a group rather than alone in a TT.

Just saying ^_^
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
Carl I don’t want to argue with you honestly. Prefer for you not to start throwing stones at me. If you look at my zp profile you see I do race in A as well as B. I’d like to get promoted so I’m working on that.

If people look at your zp they make their own conclusions as I’m sure they do.

No I’m afraid I’m not fascinated with you either. I simply followed the bread crumb trail from your ranking to your stats and concluded that you could easily race in B. It’s just my opinion. I said that from the start. If you don’t like that then you’re free to disagree. But there’s no need in trying to imply something else or throw stones. The stats speak for themselves.

It’s not for me to get angry. I just conclude it’s a little sad. That is all I’m afraid…
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
For what it’s worth I’d say the same to anyone. It wasn’t even an accusation just an observation. I don’t see why I should tip toe around it.

We have long discussions about people riding in catergory below the one they should probably be in. If people don’t like the truth then no I’m afraid that isn’t really my problem.

I can only repeat again and again and again. I’m sure a lot of people here and on zwift as a whole relish a better cat system.
 

berty bassett

Legendary Member
Location
I'boro
We all see tts as different I suppose
I look on them as a proper race against people who are close to you , no drafting , no excuses just effort to beat them , try to hard and blow up , not hard enough and get beat - Bologna is a tough course for a tt and wonder if it would be fairer to all to have a flat tt ? On saying that , there is a fair bit of flat and this time there’s a big downhill so 🤷‍♂️ I hope to do all the courses though - looking forward to it all
 

<Tommy>

Illegitimi non carborundum
Location
Camden, London
We all see tts as different I suppose
I look on them as a proper race against people who are close to you , no drafting , no excuses just effort to beat them , try to hard and blow up , not hard enough and get beat - Bologna is a tough course for a tt and wonder if it would be fairer to all to have a flat tt ? On saying that , there is a fair bit of flat and this time there’s a big downhill so 🤷‍♂️ I hope to do all the courses though - looking forward to it all

Careful mate. It’s crazy talk like that that got you promoted…
 

berty bassett

Legendary Member
Location
I'boro
I can’t wait !!
I will never come anywhere to worry the leaders but I think half the fun is pushing on - other half of a series like this is doing every course ! It really does mess me up day after day races to the point where i know the results are hampered by fatigue but keep pushing cos everyone’s in same boat
 
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