@rob01792 did you find that 1.5 w/kg group ride pretty pointless and badly organised tonight? At 0.9 w/kg I was pulling away from the group. I did try to ride with them but could only push 60-70 watts when in the draft. You'd gone up ahead and after the first part of Box Hill I got bored and pushed on a bit. I was hoping you'd follow me over the top and down the other side but you seemed to stop. I just kicked on after that and picked off quite a few other riders who had clearly got bored too! Won't be doing that ride again, that's for sure!