Winter Strength training

[Dusty Bin]

You seem to be quite upset by the fact that you cant understand me - didums

This may sound odd, considering you are 73, but grow up.

 

[madpensioner]

I know its been turned into that 'centred around cycling performance' [reads racing], but that was the point I was making about the OP s question I'm still not sure what strength he is looking to gain, are you ?

Im not looking to gain something - I HAVE gain by using weights - you can see what i have gained - try it and you will be able to do what i am do in my mid 70s
- if you dont like what i am doing then dont do it - if you try it and it doesnt work for then stop - simples

 

[bianchi1]

Careful with terms like strength and power. They are very different things.

Share a linky and we'll analyse criticize it for you

Here's a good one that might be useful to the OP as he is a sportive rider:

http://brage.bibsys.no/nih/bitstrea...ge_17676/1/Raastad ScandJMedSciSport 2011.pdf

Argues that strength training, combined with endurance training increases mean power output during a 5 min effort after 185 min of sub maximal riding.

 

[lukesdad]

The OP would have to clarify that, but I took it to mean 'gyming to improve power'. Unfortunately, as is so often the case, the OP posts once and is then never seen again.

I wonder why ?

 

[VamP]

Here's a good one that might be useful to the OP as he is a sportive rider:

http://brage.bibsys.no/nih/bitstream/URN:NBN:no-bibsys_brage_17676/1/Raastad ScandJMedSciSport 2011.pdf

Argues that strength training, combined with endurance training increases mean power output during a 5 min effort after 185 min of sub maximal riding.

All I can read is the title, and as that does not make sense, I am assuming it's a poor translation. Can you link to the actual paper?

 

[lukesdad]

who is 'you lot' ? - Do you mean 'people with an interest in improving their performance on a bike'?

That maybe, but the lot I am referring to are those that don't read the question or misread it on purpose and spout off on their own agenda. Is that clearer for you?

 

[lukesdad]

@madpensioner is not the OP. The thread has moved on some from the OP.

He was dealt with some time ago

 

[bianchi1]

All I can read is the title, and as that does not make sense, I am assuming it's a poor translation. Can you link to the actual paper?

Its working on my machine.

have you scrolled down from the title page?

 

[madpensioner]

Did your hear about the old bull and the young bull at the top of a hill - the young bull said lets run down the hill and make love to one of those cows
- the old bull said lets walk down and do the lot.

 

[lukesdad]

Im not looking to gain something - I HAVE gain by using weights - you can see what i have gained - try it and you will be able to do what i am do in my mid 70s
- if you dont like what i am doing then dont do it - if you try it and it doesnt work for then stop - simples

You 're not the OP you 're the OAP [ I give up ]

 

[lukesdad]

Reading forum for yoos lot !!!!

 

[Dusty Bin]

Here's a good one that might be useful to the OP as he is a sportive rider:

http://brage.bibsys.no/nih/bitstream/URN:NBN:no-bibsys_brage_17676/1/Raastad ScandJMedSciSport 2011.pdf

Argues that strength training, combined with endurance training increases mean power output during a 5 min effort after 185 min of sub maximal riding.

The same old studies get trotted out every time this subject comes up. All that proves is that a group who did more training, did better than a group which did less training.

 

[Dusty Bin]

The assumption was made here, the first answer, the assumption you lot allways make by the way.

If the assumption was incorrect, then maybe the OP should have clarified then, no?

 

[bianchi1]

The same old studies get trotted out every time this subject comes up. All that proves is that a group who did more training, did better than a group which did less training.

the point is the extra training was 'strength' training. loaded squats if understand the methods.

As you say in you first post " there is very little evidence to equate improved leg strength to improve cycling performance". i would argue that this study is one piece of evidence that shows leg strength improves cycling performance. (a very specific type of cycling admittedly)

 

[Dusty Bin]

the point is the extra training was 'strength' training. loaded squats if understand the methods.

As you say in you first post " there is very little evidence to equate improved leg strength to improve cycling performance". i would argue that this study is one piece of evidence that shows leg strength improves cycling performance. (a very specific type of cycling admittedly)

It doesn't, because there is no evidence to show that the group would not have gone even better had they not focussed their additional sessions on cycle-specific training. Of course stressing the body causes an adaptation, but nothing in there suggests that weight training is more effective than the equivalent amount of cycling.

In any case, the entire study is based on a false premise that increased leg strength would promote cycling economy (ie be easier to pedal) - which is already demonstrated to be nonsense, given the relatively minimal pedal forces involved.