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Profpointy

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I dug up the BBC series of Oliver Twist from 1985... 13 thirty minute episodes, far more involved than any other tv/movie version. Obviously it's not as much fun as the musical starring Mark Lester and Oliver Reed, but thoroughly engaging.

It got me thinking though... It's supposed to be a scathing critique of the Poor Law, but it's even more scathing in its portrayal of the lower classes... all of them are dirty rotten scoundrels, even the lower middle class characters. It's only the upper class characters who are nice and caring and selfless, including Oliver, despite being brought up in a workhouse. It must be in the blood :whistle:

whilst I must confess my knowledge of Dickens' work is mostly from TV dramas rather than reading, I totally agree with your point, in that it does seem to be that each class belongs in their place, and that justice is only served when the young foundling is finally elevated back to his proper high born status, or the ruined family are once again able to live in bourgeois idleness have been rescued from the lower class climbers above their station who have temporarily gained by their own efforts (admittedly dishonestly like Uriah Heap, but at least he actually works). Not exactly reforming society never mind socialist is it?

I did get through half of Tale of Two Cities and concede the writing is awesome. Only gave up as the print was small and I'd not then succumbed to glasses.
 
’Smoke & Steel’
Yesterday channel, last night

A new series, with an enthusiastic presenter

She was at Saltburn, & the Funicular
 
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AndyRM

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Following up on this, I'm absolutely flying through it. Couple episodes into series 6, so I'll soon be into the unknown. There's a lot of traipsing around, and Sansa looking wistfully out of windows, but as TV goes it's impressive stuff.

It's worth watching for Peter Dinklage alone.

And a further follow up - I watched series 7 last night. What on earth happened?! I know it's no longer based on the books, but surely they could have kept the tone at least vaguely consistent.

It reminds me of Desperate Housewives Season 5 (I think) which is so badly written it's unintentionally hilarious.
 
And a further follow up - I watched series 7 last night. What on earth happened?! I know it's no longer based on the books, but surely they could have kept the tone at least vaguely consistent.

It reminds me of Desperate Housewives Season 5 (I think) which is so badly written it's unintentionally hilarious.
Just wait until series 8 !
 
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AndyRM

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Just wait until series 8 !

I finished it last night. I can see why everyone got so upset about it, and normally I don't really care but it was unbelievably disappointing.

WTF were they doing with the living vs the dead battle? It was so dark I may as well have had my eyes shut. I get that it was a battle at night, but they'd managed to do it properly before so what went wrong? And the way that ended was a total cop out.

All I could think about in the fight for King's Landing was Leeroy Jenkins.

Oh well, the highs were amazing, so I suppose it's to be expected that the lows would be pretty miserable.

Overall - 7/10.
 
I finished it last night. I can see why everyone got so upset about it, and normally I don't really care but it was unbelievably disappointing.

WTF were they doing with the living vs the dead battle? It was so dark I may as well have had my eyes shut. I get that it was a battle at night, but they'd managed to do it properly before so what went wrong? And the way that ended was a total cop out.

All I could think about in the fight for King's Landing was Leeroy Jenkins.

Oh well, the highs were amazing, so I suppose it's to be expected that the lows would be pretty miserable.

Overall - 7/10.

For me I think the producers had got bored and were already moving onto other projects. They rattled off the last series far too quickly and with too little care. I'd be wary of anything else they produce.
 

Profpointy

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We've been watching "Round the World in 80 days" on the beeb. Four episodes in and enjoying it a lot. David Tennant is great as Fogg, and the two co-stars as his travelling companions Leonie Beneach as an aspiring lady journalist battling the predjudices of the time and Ibrahim Koma (himself French) superb as Passepartout. At one level it's an enjoyable romp but there's real peril and danger, and it sucessfully makes it relevant by questioning the risks and consequences forced on others by Fogg's idle upper class foolish wager compared to the hard realities faced by Passepartout to simply survive. I've not read the book, but though they've changed some characters round it seems to be true to the adventure element whilst still challenging the class system of the time.

highly enjoyable, and a strong reccomendation
 

yello

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Inventing Anna based on fact, admittedly loosely, but best watched as complete fiction imho. There are intentional comedic moments that prevent it being taken too seriously.

I read an article a few days back about 'based on fact' programmes and it asked some interesting questions about just how far you can go with fictionalising or dramatising factual events, and the responsibility thereof. I'm going to reread it in the light of the 2 episodes I've watched.
 

swee'pea99

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Quite sorry to see the final credits run on the last episode of Clarkson's Farm, which has been reliably enoyable watching throughout, though I got a slight uplift when they revealed the 'Farming Advisor' to be one George Badger. :okay:
 
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