Thanks Jim - I'm not near a Decathlon but I see Evans sell the 1ltr SIS bottles too (£4.99) - I'm buying something from them soon so will add to my order. That extra 100mls over the Elite ones could make all the difference!
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Yes and no kip. Analysis helps reflect on what you’ve learned / future training plans. It’s always easier for me at least, to learn from experience rather than theory.
The difference is training v event, of course you review the event but against the target set. Your target was group at 21, so you exceeded the target, job done. Next year the target is likely to be 23, a little bit down on this years actuals but it's further. You'll train for that target.
I rearly do sportives, so don't get into ''training" properly, I just ride and very occasionally do an event, which is just another ride in a different place with different people (most of whom I wouldn't trust the wheel of).
I appreciate that ToC is different as it's a qualifying event so there is something at stake.
bobinski
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I did the inverted version , much more difficult
Done my weights today, legs like jelly again
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Looks to me like you might be worried about a weak pelvic floor
I have a racing licence and did wonder. Issue may be the race places run out before people can get their licences?
bobinski
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I don't think ( i could be wrong) any of us expected to get near qualifying and so, unlike others i know who did qualify, we didnt really train for it. Now i have seen what is involved on the day, the huge impact of fighting to get into and staying in the draft, and ruing mechanical and physical mishap, it seems silly not to give it another try. I have nearly always ridden alone avoiding the local groups i could go out with on congested suburban roads. I think its one of the reasons i found it easy to move onto bkool and then zwift. Now though, having tasted fast paced group riding and averaging a smidge under 22mph with long periods alone i fear i may be smitten. I will target that 23mph and see how far I get. i reckon i will be on zwift a lot over winter.
I'm pretty sure once my Bkool sub runs out in Feb I'll not renew. Same for BRVR - i paid the yearly fee up front but not used it much so won't be renewing.
Zwift is fab but find a club, safe and fast group riding is a skill.
I was intimidated by the athleticism and SERIOUS bike bling amongst the racers! Also, I think there will probably be a bit more expectation that we know what we're doing with regards racing etiquette, riding in a group etc. from that lot which I for one am mostly clueless about! I don't want to take it that seriously. Also, the guy who "won" the sportive had a quicker time than the guy who won the race!
bobinski
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Absolutely. Your experience is invaluable Kipster. I think we all saw riders clearly unused to riding in groups and presenting a danger to themselves and others. I know i also tucked in a little too quick at one point riders around me shared a few opinions
. Getting out on group rides in the spring will be essential.
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<Tommy>
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This really.
Kip I think maybe you misenterpreted my original post. Or most likely I didn’t put myself across right. Because yes I’m analysing. You used the phrase over analysing which is of course vague and how do we set that marker? Is that the same as being ‘too sensitive’, or taking something ‘too seriously’? Maybe I’m guilty of all those things in other people’s eyes. Maybe we all can. These things are a matter of one persons opinon vs another.... but I do something, then I reflect, then I move on. It works for me.
I don’t generally target any particular event and I didn’t set a specific target for this ride. My objective was to go as hard as possible and see what happens. Now I’ve done that I’ll think about how I can go even faster next time. That is generally what I do in life. I’m incredibly competitive. But mostly that is with myself. I want to push myself as hard as I can generally. Perhaps it could be a reflection of my own particular journey in life but I don’t really think about that too much. I know it’s proven to come with reward for me but then maybe the payoff is never being completely satisfied. That’s life...
I personally wouldn’t join a club. I don’t like the formality, the restraints, or the group mentality. These type of rides suit me down to the ground.
The best bit of training I've had for group riding and skill was in a velodrome on a track bike with a great coach. Having to ride side by side, handlebars almost touching through two cones under a foot apart then sweeping up the track for some other cones really builds trust, communication and ability. Also through and offs, riding six abreast all up the track plus all sorts of other drills and sprints and efforts such as taking a lap (easier said than done).
This really.
Kip I think maybe you misenterpreted my original post. Or most likely I didn’t put myself across right. Because yes I’m analysing. You used the phrase over analysing which is of course vague and how do we set that marker? Is that the same as being ‘too sensitive’, or taking something ‘too seriously’? Maybe I’m guilty of all those things in other people’s eyes. Maybe we all can. These things are a matter of one persons opinon vs another.... but I do something, then I reflect, then I move on. It works for me.
I don’t generally target any particular event and I didn’t set a specific target for this ride. My objective was to go as hard as possible and see what happens. Now I’ve done that I’ll think about how I can go even faster next time. That is generally what I do in life. I’m incredibly competitive. But mostly that is with myself. I want to push myself as hard as I can generally. Perhaps it could be a reflection of my own particular journey in life but I don’t really think about that too much. I know it’s proven to come with reward for me but then maybe the payoff is never being completely satisfied. That’s life...
I personally wouldn’t join a club. I don’t like the formality, the restraints, or the group mentality. These type of rides suit me down to the ground.
We are all different, I'm not particularly competitive although I do like to win the occasional sprint at the end of the club ride
so it's likely I don't get your perspective, but that's fine, I like differences in people and opinions.Lots of different types of clubs out there all with different focus. The club I'm in don't TT, don't race etc.. they aren't that serious, now there are some individuals that race and the fast boys average 23 on open roads on a Thursday night trash. I can't stay with them, 20 is enough for me. There is a little formality but mostly it is just a social group ride, learning skills and having fun. We don't drop people unlike some clubs.
I've done rides with the racers and they are a breed apart, I was on the front with one, I was in bits, max HR, he wasn't even trying, I know this as I couldn't talk, but he was giving me great advice of pacing at the time.
I love club riding, but get that many don't.
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Aleman
Knees are FUBAR but I don't like to mention it
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Sounds about right, we've got 3 levels, a foundation that does 40 ish @ 14, and inter that does 50-55 @ 15 and the advanced that do 70 ish @ about 18-20.
We've just created an inter plus group that is 60-70 @ 16.5 - 18 depending on terrain. This is the perfect group for me.
