Tour de France 2023 ** SPOILERS **

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Adam4868

Guru
Even the bookies are going 50/50 ! Surprised at Van Aert at 6/1 I reckon he's still desperate for a stage win 😁
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T4tomo

Legendary Member
Well, it's more the design of the stage. There's next to no chance of making any GC gains on it even if you weren't too busy swilling champagne. It's a sprinters' stage.

Indeed and if there is only one or 2 seconds on GC then there would be nothing to stop the 2nd place riding attacking, but a GC rider is very unlikely to win a sprint and very very unlikely to establish a gap, precisely because its so flat and the sprint teams want their men to duke it out. hence when there is usually an appreciable gap between riders there is no point the GC guys "competing" on the final stage, hence the photo calls etc before a sprint battle on the Paris laps.
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
Perhaps they could lay down planking on the stairs of the Eiffel Tower and have a summit finish. Mind you, logistics could be a bit tricky as the gift shop at the top would fill up quite quickly.
 

Legs

usually riding on Zwift...
Location
Staffordshire
Vinokourov attacked in Paris in 2005 and, by winning the stage, overtook Levi Leipheimer for 5th (4th?) in the rather tainted GC.
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Even the bookies are going 50/50 ! Surprised at Van Aert at 6/1 I reckon he's still desperate for a stage win 😁
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Wots the deal with WVA - sure talented cyclist - but he hasn't won a stage - nor has he come close - and yesterday was left in the wake of a 35 year old. Super domestique - sure - but so is Adam Yates - yet I don't hear so many pundits creaming themselves over him.

Must have a good PR agent.
 

Chislenko

Veteran
Wots the deal with WVA - sure talented cyclist - but he hasn't won a stage - nor has he come close - and yesterday was left in the wake of a 35 year old. Super domestique - sure - but so is Adam Yates - yet I don't hear so many pundits creaming themselves over him.

Must have a good PR agent.

Perhaps Adam needs a Lucozade helmet to get noticed 😊
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
Wots the deal with WVA - sure talented cyclist - but he hasn't won a stage - nor has he come close - and yesterday was left in the wake of a 35 year old. Super domestique - sure - but so is Adam Yates - yet I don't hear so many pundits creaming themselves over him.

Must have a good PR agent.

WVA's TdF palmares is a teeny bit better than Adam's. Nine stage wins and a green jersey, vs one and a white jersey. Plus Wout has won one or two other things outside the TdF. Just little things like Amstel Gold, MSR ...
 
WVA's TdF palmares is a teeny bit better than Adam's. Nine stage wins and a green jersey, vs one and a white jersey. Plus Wout has won one or two other things outside the TdF. Just little things like Amstel Gold, MSR ...

Sure.

I did mean within this years TDF.
 

Jameshow

Veteran
He's a monster engine only bettered by big mig imho.
Steep hills like yesterday's finish will be his nemesis!
 

T4tomo

Legendary Member
Vinokourov attacked in Paris in 2005 and, by winning the stage, overtook Levi Leipheimer for 5th (4th?) in the rather tainted GC.
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That is a somewhat misleading synopsis of what happened......he won the sprint (which is always contested) and went ahead of Leipheimer with the bonus seconds he won. They had also both contested the intermediate sprint earlier in the stage

It was pissing with rain, so GC times were taken on first pass of Champs and because it was wet it was a messy sprint with a bit of a pre sprint break, which Vino joined and managed to stay ahead of the "pure" sprinters. So really it was slight anomaly that a GC rider was mixed up in the sprint finish.
 
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