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Gwylan

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Why do people feel the need for noise?

Yesterday the manager tried to persuade me to have a radio in the workshop. She said she'd been there before I arrived ant that there was a "tense atmosphere" because it was so quiet, and wanted to know why I didn't want a radio there.

I said that it's for three main reasons: I'm trying to get clients to work exactly, which involves listening for problems they can't necessarily see. Things like brakes rubbing on a wheel. I want them to learn to hear a gear clicking faintly but enough to cause a problem, and how to adjust gears by ear so the problem is solved quickly and without my intervention or a test ride. Music blocks this sound.

I find it hard to isolate voices when there is other noise in the background, which is annoying for everyone because I have to keep asking them to repeat themselves. As there are at least three native non-German languages represented in the team, trying to understand each other is hard enough as it is.

Finally, I find background music generally irritating noise. I'm always glad to get away from the constant barrage in the rest of the shop.

The counter argument was that we should give priority to our client's feelings and comfort over our own. Now, I've been working with these clients for several months, and they keep coming, so they clearly are happy with the environment. I haven't felt any tension in the air and I'm very sensitive to such things.

I suspect my manager was projecting her dislike of quietness onto my clients; It's strange to me that people find a lack of noise so bothersome.

Think it's do what works and ignore the management.

At my age it's hard enough to hear what people say let alone against a background noise.
There must be an argument for being present in the quiet especially when trying to talk to people in everyone's nonnative tongue
 
Think it's do what works and ignore the management.

At my age it's hard enough to hear what people say let alone against a background noise.
There must be an argument for being present in the quiet especially when trying to talk to people in everyone's nonnative tongue

Exactly. I'm going to continue as I have so far, partly on these principles, partly because on the evidence I'm clearly doing something right, and partly on the principle it's my d*mn workshop so I make the rules.
 
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Chris S

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Mad Doug Biker

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If all the ice were to melt how high would the oceans rise?
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Why do people feel the need for noise?

Yesterday the manager tried to persuade me to have a radio in the workshop. She said she'd been there before I arrived ant that there was a "tense atmosphere" because it was so quiet, and wanted to know why I didn't want a radio there.

I said that it's for three main reasons: I'm trying to get clients to work exactly, which involves listening for problems they can't necessarily see. Things like brakes rubbing on a wheel. I want them to learn to hear a gear clicking faintly but enough to cause a problem, and how to adjust gears by ear so the problem is solved quickly and without my intervention or a test ride. Music blocks this sound.

I find it hard to isolate voices when there is other noise in the background, which is annoying for everyone because I have to keep asking them to repeat themselves. As there are at least three native non-German languages represented in the team, trying to understand each other is hard enough as it is.

Finally, I find background music generally irritating noise. I'm always glad to get away from the constant barrage in the rest of the shop.

The counter argument was that we should give priority to our client's feelings and comfort over our own. Now, I've been working with these clients for several months, and they keep coming, so they clearly are happy with the environment. I haven't felt any tension in the air and I'm very sensitive to such things.

I suspect my manager was projecting her dislike of quietness onto my clients; It's strange to me that people find a lack of noise so bothersome.

I score highly on the Sensory Processing Sensitivity scale. This has many advantages but one disadvantage is that I can't easily isolate voices in the way described, especially in German.

I was brain damaged as a baby, so for as long as I can remember, the world has 'hissed' at me (what others would call 'tinitus', except it 'hisses', it doesn't 'ring'). Anyway, another effect is that sounds just merge into each other if there is background noise. It's why I am very bad at hearing anything in a noisy place and also why I never really bother with music, particularly songs.
That said, I don't mind tunes and for some reason, Jazz tends to make me concentrate better, partly I think because it is just so random at times - There is no 'solid edge' as it were.

So yes, I am with you on things being quiet and if it's your workshop, then tell her to get knotted! :thumbsup:

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Mad Doug Biker

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My hearing also sometimes buzzes and pulses and at other times, it squeaks, but mainly, it hisses, like air being expelled at high pressure.

I've had this for as long as I can remember and didn't realise until I was 7 that others do not hear the same as myself.

'What's that noise?'

'What noise?'
 
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Gwylan

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Why didn't Charles have a representative of the Ethiopian Orthodox church at his coronation?

Well, depends whether you mean the Authentic Ethiopian Orthodox Church or the Original Ethiopian Orthodox Church.
The Porvoo agreement (look it up and wonder) does not recognise the Authentic Original Ethiopian Orthodox Church of Eritrea either.
There were only two members and they've just had a schism.
Also if they had come the Anglican Catholic Church of Abyssinia would have boycotted the event.
That would have required several other patriarchs to boycott the event out of solidarity.
 

FishFright

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Well, depends whether you mean the Authentic Ethiopian Orthodox Church or the Original Ethiopian Orthodox Church.
The Porvoo agreement (look it up and wonder) does not recognise the Authentic Original Ethiopian Orthodox Church of Eritrea either.
There were only two members and they've just had a schism.
Also if they had come the Anglican Catholic Church of Abyssinia would have boycotted the event.
That would have required several other patriarchs to boycott the event out of solidarity.

... and then the Judean People's Front would want to know where their invitation was and all hell , figuratively, would have broken lose.
 

Gwylan

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... and then the Judean People's Front would want to know where their invitation was and all hell , figuratively, would have broken lose.

Ah, well it's because of the settlement. Under the first settlement (1843) all postmen are unorthodox.
So the orthodox won't touch any mail for Orthodox because a non Orthodox might have touched it.
But the JPF don't want to be seen as less zealous, so they don't have letter boxes. That's because they don't want to be accused of copying the tactics of the orthodox.
The unorthodox postmen have not delivered a letter since 1967.
No one has been fired and postmen who died 35 years ago are still on the payroll. The Neutral Reformists who run the admin service refuse to get involved in the internecine squabble.
 
Ah, well it's because of the settlement. Under the first settlement (1843) all postmen are unorthodox.
So the orthodox won't touch any mail for Orthodox because a non Orthodox might have touched it.
But the JPF don't want to be seen as less zealous, so they don't have letter boxes. That's because they don't want to be accused of copying the tactics of the orthodox.
The unorthodox postmen have not delivered a letter since 1967.
No one has been fired and postmen who died 35 years ago are still on the payroll. The Neutral Reformists who run the admin service refuse to get involved in the internecine squabble.

Makes as much sense as a coronation...
 
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Well, depends whether you mean the Authentic Ethiopian Orthodox Church or the Original Ethiopian Orthodox Church.
The Porvoo agreement (look it up and wonder) does not recognise the Authentic Original Ethiopian Orthodox Church of Eritrea either.
There were only two members and they've just had a schism.
Also if they had come the Anglican Catholic Church of Abyssinia would have boycotted the event.
That would have required several other patriarchs to boycott the event out of solidarity.

Exactly.

What a dumb question!!!
 
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