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BoldonLad

Not part of the Elite
Location
South Tyneside
Thank you Boldon Lad. I've made a number of similar replies, so please forgive me for keeping this short.

There is no particular post that has caused offence, just a real rather than imagined number of posts in which there has been causal bigotry, often for amusement. None of the posts are nasty or made by nasty people; just that they serve as constant reminder of the kind of bigotry available everywhere else.

Many times people say or write things that a bit inappropriate even when trying hard to be supportive. When this happens, folk are not picked up on their language, because the spirit of what they intend is accepted.

Without intending it, you kinda accidentally did so yourself above. You see, being gay like me (or trans) is not a 'lifestlye choice', it's just trying to either live as the person you are, or wishing to be as free to love the person you happen to love as anyone else is.

Sorry to use you as an example, it's not exclusive to you, most people do it most of the time without realising. Maybe I just see the 'I identify' jokes as a step too far.

There's no such thing as normal as the Jagged Principle proves.

OK. My use of "lifestyle" was not meant as you took it, but, more my poor vocabulary. I merely meant that many of your previous posts had led me guess at "your situation" (see, I don't even know a word to cover it), and, I have no problem with that. Don't want to go into a long ramble of "some of my best friends are gay" type. Suffice to say, I do have gay relatives, and, for many years I did work with a chap who was gay, even sharing a sleeping compartment with him on a Russian Intercity Train.

I can understand that you are probably heartily sick of replying, so, can we agree to the following:

1. no ill will was intended

2. you will not leave the thread

3. we will leave it there

4. I will attempt to broaden my vocabulary (although, at 73 it may be too late to teach an old dog etc etc)
 
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monkers

Veteran
OK. My use of "lifestyle" was not meant as you took it, but, more my poor vocabulary. I merely meant that many of your previous posts had led me guess at "your situation" (see, I don't even know a word to cover it), and, I have no problem with that. Don't want to go into a long ramble of "some of my best friends are gay" type. Suffice to say, I do have gay relatives, and, for many years I did work with a chap who was gay, even sharing a sleeping compartment with him on a Russian Intercity Train.

I can understand that you are probably heartily sick of replying, so, can we agree to the following:

1. no ill will was intended

2. you will not leave the thread

3 we will leave it there

Thanks again. 'no ill was intended'. I know, I know, and I'd like to think I know you better than that. I didn't mean to embarrass you like that, so apologies if you took it that way.

Anyone will know it if they properly upset me, I can do proper bollockings, otherwise I'd just disappear. Take good care xx
 

monkers

Veteran
OK, rather than me continuing to take up space here wittering on, I'll just say, thank you for the support shown with the thumbs up, the comments etc.

I'm not an absolute expert on these matters, but probably closer to it than most, so if people have generic and genuine questions that they are wondering about and would appreciate an answer, go right ahead and ask me. I'll do my best.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
Hi Classic. I like the word 'folk' too, and prefer it. Maybe some who still believe that there is 'no such thing as society' will happily be outside it's scope, but I think it the most inclusive word available to us. Epilepsy can not have been the easiest thing to have lived with; that accompanied with the lack of sensitivity, ignorance, laziness, and intolerance of others is certainly not a help. I feel for you.

While agreeing that resisting being dragged down is sound advice, I see no harm in reminding some others that perhaps they can manage to do better.
I've done that last part a few times now.

Something that confuses folk is me saying I'm lucky, born with it so know no other way. I've been open about it because it makes any "jokes" about it harder to justify. Also it might help those who may not feel up to talking about living with it.

It's only stopped me driving and flying. The not flying doesn't bother me, I'm too mean to pay the "bargain" fares. Driving, I accepted whilst in junior school it'd never happen. The roads are safer without me driving on them.
 

oldwheels

Legendary Member
Location
Isle of Mull
Turned out to be a lovely sunny day looking almost springlike. Did not feel springlike tho' as it was the coldest I have been all winter with a brisk northerly wind. My fingers never warmed up and I did not do my usual mileage. More traffic on the road today which did look all local although I would not recognise most of the denizens of Dervaig now. Known locally as " The Bears" for some historical reason nobody can remember.
Snowdrops are showing flowers and other bulbs are through tho' not far enough to flower yet. They cover a nice bit of ground beside my path which means I do not need to weed it for a while. Talking of which when I came home a near neighbour who seems to be fanatical gardener was out sprinkling something on her flower beds, possibly bone meal by the looks of it. She was wearing sandals with bare feet when the snow has only just melted. American, mad.
 
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Bloody hell @monkers it was hard work just reading your post.......how long did it take to type it?
Dirk made an excellent point which you should take into account.
Allow me to try and elaborate.......though I am not as eloquent as you.
When I was a lad homosexuals were totally frowned upon (was it still illegal then??).
My parents were super religious.....that was it.....no excuse..... homosexuality was wrong wrong wrong.
You can surely understand how difficult it is for people (like me) to adjust to this new way of life. It will take time.
Aged 73 I am accepting it but you can't expect people that have had it ingrained in them to suddenly change their whole way of thinking.
I hope this isn't offensive to you as its meant to be constructive.
Don't flounce.....your posts are enjoyable^_^

Well said!
 
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