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Dave7

Legendary Member
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Cheshire
Something I was also well used to in the prison......although the largest percentage of fits were caused by drug habits. I was always glad when we got into the cells and helped before their cell mates started sticking spoons in their mouth, etc!! It's frightening how many people still think you do things like that :sad: We had one girl that was so bad we used to have to be there while the nurse gave her rectal valium......thank God these days are gone!
Frightened to ask for details of a rectal valium :wacko:
 

rustybolts

pedalling tediously
Location
Ireland
Sounds horrible to me.
I know Mo doesn't sleep well.
I wonder how many people % wise suffer from this problem?
An amazing amount of the older set have the same circumstances and broken sleep pattern , heard a very interesting radio programme ( at about 4am) speaking exactly about this. I was a night owl even before covid. I sleep by listening to Radio 4 repeats and trawling internet radio. Listened last night also to a New Zealand radio station talking about reopening a mine followed by a recording of a live gig ( with cheer
ing audience) of blues / rock New Zealand bands . Lovely !!
 

Tenkaykev

Guru
Location
Poole
Hello again,
A slow and laboured 5K in the sunshine. I need to get my act together, I am becoming a bit "Lardy" and as every runner knows, if you can't look in the mirror and count your ribs, you're carrying too much weight^_^
Still no date for the Jab, although I did get sent a delivery of three months supply of Vitamin D3 through the post yesterday.

We watched an outstanding program yesterday on BBC4 " Life of a Mountain - A Year on Helvellyn " The photography was wonderful, and instead of a presenter there were different people telling of their connection with the mountain. I'd heartily recommend it, one of those programmes that is both uplifting and educational, with stunning visuals.
 
On the subject of disturbed sleep patterns
I saw (or maybe heard) an article about sleep and human evolution. There is a theory that older people wake up more in the nigh because this give the tribe an advantage.
The hunters/gatherers and other critical younger people sleep sounder - and the older people - who are less capable or hunting etc - wake up during the night and hence can hear any approaching problems
Also - because they are up earlier due to not sleeping - they are available to deal with child care early on - again helping the people who are more critical to get more sleep

it was all based on there being a balance in abilities and strength and weaknesses ina tribe and the weaknesses of some balance the strengths of others and visa versa


could be rubbish

but thought it would fit on this thread either way!
 

monkers

Veteran
Bloody hell @monkers it was hard work just reading your post.......how long did it take to type it?
Dirk made an excellent point which you should take into account.
Allow me to try and elaborate.......though I am not as eloquent as you.
When I was a lad homosexuals were totally frowned upon (was it still illegal then??).
My parents were super religious.....that was it.....no excuse..... homosexuality was wrong wrong wrong.
You can surely understand how difficult it is for people (like me) to adjust to this new way of life. It will take time.
Aged 73 I am accepting it but you can't expect people that have had it ingrained in them to suddenly change their whole way of thinking.
I hope this isn't offensive to you as its meant to be constructive.
Don't flounce.....your posts are enjoyable^_^

^_^ ... about 20 minutes including proof reading (at which I'm abysmal). Thanks for all your kind words.

I'm 63, so a decade younger than thee. When I was a young'un there was no bigotry at home from my parents, though I have an older brother who caused some problems. I do remember hearing the racism and the homophobia elsewhere though - and of course there was no 'transphobia' at that time, since the language wasn't there as gay men were 'nancy boys' and those who dressed as women were just 'nancier'.

My brother is left handed. He had problems at school because the school did not provide equipment for left handed learners.
One particular teacher, an older person herself, was quite vicious in forcing left-handed children to 'be normal', ie right-handed. After a lot of protests, he was allowed to move class, this they achieved by moving him down a year instead of up a form. Despite being acquainted with negative discrimination, he went on to later excel in it himself. Early lesson in those training in the safeguarding of children, '' too often the abused become the abusers''.

I've heard it said that it is almost inevitable that a father and son either get into a one time brawl or otherwise very nearly so. My older brother once went out as teenagers 'queer bashing'. This really was a thing back then as you'll likely remember. My Dad got to hear of it and laid down his law. My brother set about Dad (a blind man) only discover that blindness wasn't such an affliction as to prevent him discovering that Dad could near take his head off with a single well-aimed blow. My brother didn't repeat his mistake again!

In the extended family there were those who were openly racist, so I used to hear it, but I instinctively recognised it for what it was and rejected it at a very young age. I was labelled 'an idealist' at a very young age.

I have generic criticism of our generation, that is laziness, a reluctance to adequately consider what on the face of it seems new to us, rejecting it as 'new-fangled' and therefore irrelevant. There is little that is new under the sun when it comes to people, just the language and ways in which the ideas are presented. My own thoughts are that the language used to attempt to explain things have gone terribly wrong.

Please indulge me by considering one example. The law defines trans folk as 'transsexuals'. The naysayers say that a person can never completely change sex since chromosomes are pre-natal, that adjustment to plug and socket arrangements do not enable a person to change sex. They also say that trans folk must be deluded to believe this, since science says that a person can not simply 'change sex'. That may sound like a satisfactory argument on the face of it.

However trans folk do not claim to fully change every aspect of their sex, so the argument is fallacious. Rather trans folk tend to say that they have always had a sense of self that doesn't match with their body. This led to the notion of 'being born in the wrong body' which, to be honest, is an example of lazy thinking. Assuming that the body and brain are healthy, it is not that either of them are 'wrong', just that they are not a match. The legal process is an attempt at an accommodation for the person. The law intends to recognise the 'gender' of the person and accordingly agrees to amend the record at birth.

Therefore the person can not be truly 'transsexual', and because the person's own perception of their own sense of gender has been for ever, then they can not have changed gender. Consequently a load of tosh is written and said by academics and others who really should know better.

If a person is 'transsexual' and 'changes sex' accordingly, then is said to be 'transgender' then in any logical thought they'd end up being mismatched again!

If only there was a definitive guide that nailed it, but that would probably require the vocabulary to be be all changed again. If that was to happen, imagine the confusion then!
 

Dave7

Legendary Member
Location
Cheshire
Also more quickly absorbed I believe.
Rectal valium ???
Think I would rather have it shoved up my bum than that :wacko:
 

monkers

Veteran
@monkers Please don't leave, I find your posts enlightening and extremely well written. I'd love to be able to write like that. As others have said, on here there's good days and bad days.

I've got to apologise if any of my posts have offended you in the past. 55 years of building site humour is hard to shake off at times.

Thank you GM. No, not 'offended'. As I've tried to describe, it's that it reminds me of the ongoing sense that LGBT folk feel that they are 'other' and outside of the group that this language causes - it doesn't need to be actual offensive language to cause a shudder.
 
@PaulSB and others who might be interested, this Saturday, Sky Arts showing footage of Runrig’s last ever show
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As Max Boyce used to say, “I was there !”
 

monkers

Veteran
It is shoved up your bum. Lol. Lots of blood vessels in your rectum so it is absorbed quickly, plus you obviously can’t give anything by mouth while they were still in a seizure.


As a teacher I was occasionally required to administer valium in that way too. Well someone had to calm our ranty headteacher! :ohmy:

No seriously though, I was daunted initially giving rectal valium to children but it was so fast acting and beneficial to them.
 
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